Additional project downloads

[Greg Hogan]

Hi,

Should Flink add-ons such as CEP, Gelly, ML, and the optional Metrics
Reporters be available from the download page? Is the alternative to direct
users to Maven Central?

Greg

[Robert Metzger]

Maybe we should put a link to maven central. We could parameterize the link
so that it always links to the current release linked on our downloads page.

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 5:04 PM, Greg Hogan <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Should Flink add-ons such as CEP, Gelly, ML, and the optional Metrics
> Reporters be available from the download page? Is the alternative to direct
> users to Maven Central?
>
> Greg
>

[Till Rohrmann]

I agree that it would be good to offer these kind of convenience download
links.

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 5:25 PM, Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Maybe we should put a link to maven central. We could parameterize the link
> so that it always links to the current release linked on our downloads
> page.
>
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 5:04 PM, Greg Hogan <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Should Flink add-ons such as CEP, Gelly, ML, and the optional Metrics
> > Reporters be available from the download page? Is the alternative to
> direct
> > users to Maven Central?
> >
> > Greg
> >
>

[Stephan Ewen]

The downloads would be just the components' jar files, or everything?

At some point, someone suggested to add the jars of all libraries (gelly,
ml, ...) and connectors into the download tarball:

  - bin/
  - conf/
  - lib/ (core flink runtime and apis)
  - libraries/
       +-gelly/<all gelly jars>
       +-CEP/<all cep jars>
       +-...
  - examples/

Would that be interesting to people?


On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 5:26 PM, Till Rohrmann <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I agree that it would be good to offer these kind of convenience download
> links.
>
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 5:25 PM, Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> > Maybe we should put a link to maven central. We could parameterize the
> link
> > so that it always links to the current release linked on our downloads
> > page.
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 5:04 PM, Greg Hogan <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Should Flink add-ons such as CEP, Gelly, ML, and the optional Metrics
> > > Reporters be available from the download page? Is the alternative to
> > direct
> > > users to Maven Central?
> > >
> > > Greg
> > >
> >
>

[Greg Hogan]

Also the metrics reporters.

The circumstances for this request are that I wanted to use the metrics
reporters for 1.1.1 and had to go looking on Maven Central (also had to
download dependencies, which may be an issue with packaging). I'm also
looking to update the Gelly documentation to walkthrough running the
examples and was looking to avoid pointing users to Maven Central.

This sounds like a nice compromise, to include the extra jars in the
download but off the default classpath. The distinction between lib and
libraries may be subtle and not as applicable to the other jars. Would
something like "opt" be too obtuse?

On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 1:55 PM, Stephan Ewen <[hidden email]> wrote:

> The downloads would be just the components' jar files, or everything?
>
> At some point, someone suggested to add the jars of all libraries (gelly,
> ml, ...) and connectors into the download tarball:
>
>   - bin/
>   - conf/
>   - lib/ (core flink runtime and apis)
>   - libraries/
>        +-gelly/<all gelly jars>
>        +-CEP/<all cep jars>
>        +-...
>   - examples/
>
> Would that be interesting to people?
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 5:26 PM, Till Rohrmann <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> > I agree that it would be good to offer these kind of convenience download
> > links.
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 5:25 PM, Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Maybe we should put a link to maven central. We could parameterize the
> > link
> > > so that it always links to the current release linked on our downloads
> > > page.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 5:04 PM, Greg Hogan <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Should Flink add-ons such as CEP, Gelly, ML, and the optional Metrics
> > > > Reporters be available from the download page? Is the alternative to
> > > direct
> > > > users to Maven Central?
> > > >
> > > > Greg
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[Stephan Ewen]

"opt" sounds good to me. I just wrote "libraries" out of a lack of
creativity ;-)

On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 2:40 AM, Greg Hogan <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Also the metrics reporters.
>
> The circumstances for this request are that I wanted to use the metrics
> reporters for 1.1.1 and had to go looking on Maven Central (also had to
> download dependencies, which may be an issue with packaging). I'm also
> looking to update the Gelly documentation to walkthrough running the
> examples and was looking to avoid pointing users to Maven Central.
>
> This sounds like a nice compromise, to include the extra jars in the
> download but off the default classpath. The distinction between lib and
> libraries may be subtle and not as applicable to the other jars. Would
> something like "opt" be too obtuse?
>
> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 1:55 PM, Stephan Ewen <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > The downloads would be just the components' jar files, or everything?
> >
> > At some point, someone suggested to add the jars of all libraries (gelly,
> > ml, ...) and connectors into the download tarball:
> >
> >   - bin/
> >   - conf/
> >   - lib/ (core flink runtime and apis)
> >   - libraries/
> >        +-gelly/<all gelly jars>
> >        +-CEP/<all cep jars>
> >        +-...
> >   - examples/
> >
> > Would that be interesting to people?
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 5:26 PM, Till Rohrmann <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I agree that it would be good to offer these kind of convenience
> download
> > > links.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 5:25 PM, Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Maybe we should put a link to maven central. We could parameterize
> the
> > > link
> > > > so that it always links to the current release linked on our
> downloads
> > > > page.
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 5:04 PM, Greg Hogan <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > Should Flink add-ons such as CEP, Gelly, ML, and the optional
> Metrics
> > > > > Reporters be available from the download page? Is the alternative
> to
> > > > direct
> > > > > users to Maven Central?
> > > > >
> > > > > Greg
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[Ismaël Mejía]

Hello,

One question (a little bit off-topic but complementary), will the
beam-runner for flink be eventually considered as an official flink addon
(and distributed like discussed here) ?





On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 10:39 AM, Stephan Ewen <[hidden email]> wrote:

> "opt" sounds good to me. I just wrote "libraries" out of a lack of
> creativity ;-)
>
> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 2:40 AM, Greg Hogan <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Also the metrics reporters.
> >
> > The circumstances for this request are that I wanted to use the metrics
> > reporters for 1.1.1 and had to go looking on Maven Central (also had to
> > download dependencies, which may be an issue with packaging). I'm also
> > looking to update the Gelly documentation to walkthrough running the
> > examples and was looking to avoid pointing users to Maven Central.
> >
> > This sounds like a nice compromise, to include the extra jars in the
> > download but off the default classpath. The distinction between lib and
> > libraries may be subtle and not as applicable to the other jars. Would
> > something like "opt" be too obtuse?
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 1:55 PM, Stephan Ewen <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > > The downloads would be just the components' jar files, or everything?
> > >
> > > At some point, someone suggested to add the jars of all libraries
> (gelly,
> > > ml, ...) and connectors into the download tarball:
> > >
> > >   - bin/
> > >   - conf/
> > >   - lib/ (core flink runtime and apis)
> > >   - libraries/
> > >        +-gelly/<all gelly jars>
> > >        +-CEP/<all cep jars>
> > >        +-...
> > >   - examples/
> > >
> > > Would that be interesting to people?
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 5:26 PM, Till Rohrmann <[hidden email]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I agree that it would be good to offer these kind of convenience
> > download
> > > > links.
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 5:25 PM, Robert Metzger <[hidden email]
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Maybe we should put a link to maven central. We could parameterize
> > the
> > > > link
> > > > > so that it always links to the current release linked on our
> > downloads
> > > > > page.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 5:04 PM, Greg Hogan <[hidden email]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Should Flink add-ons such as CEP, Gelly, ML, and the optional
> > Metrics
> > > > > > Reporters be available from the download page? Is the alternative
> > to
> > > > > direct
> > > > > > users to Maven Central?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Greg
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[Ufuk Celebi-2]

On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 2:40 AM, Greg Hogan <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> This sounds like a nice compromise, to include the extra jars in the
> download but off the default classpath. The distinction between lib and
> libraries may be subtle and not as applicable to the other jars. Would
> something like "opt" be too obtuse?

+1 to "opt"