[DISCUSS] "Who's hiring on Flink" monthly thread in the mailing lists?

[Kostas Tzoumas-2]

Hi folks,

I'd like to see how the community feels about a monthly "Who is hiring on
Flink" email thread on the dev@ and user@ mailing lists where folks can
post job positions related to Flink.

I personally think that posting individual job offerings in the mailing
list is off-topic (hence I have refrained to do that wearing my company
hat, and I have discouraged others when they asked for my opinion on this),
but I thought that a monthly thread like this would be both helpful to the
community and not cause overhead.

Cheers,
Kostas

[Márton Balassi]

+1. It keeps it both organized and to a reasonable minimum overhead.

Would you volunteer for starting the mail thread each month then, Kostas?

Best,

Marton

On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 6:42 AM, Kostas Tzoumas <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> I'd like to see how the community feels about a monthly "Who is hiring on
> Flink" email thread on the dev@ and user@ mailing lists where folks can
> post job positions related to Flink.
>
> I personally think that posting individual job offerings in the mailing
> list is off-topic (hence I have refrained to do that wearing my company
> hat, and I have discouraged others when they asked for my opinion on this),
> but I thought that a monthly thread like this would be both helpful to the
> community and not cause overhead.
>
> Cheers,
> Kostas
>

[Kostas Tzoumas-2]

yes, of course!

On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 12:54 PM, Márton Balassi <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> +1. It keeps it both organized and to a reasonable minimum overhead.
>
> Would you volunteer for starting the mail thread each month then, Kostas?
>
> Best,
>
> Marton
>
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 6:42 AM, Kostas Tzoumas <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> I'd like to see how the community feels about a monthly "Who is hiring on
>> Flink" email thread on the dev@ and user@ mailing lists where folks can
>> post job positions related to Flink.
>>
>> I personally think that posting individual job offerings in the mailing
>> list is off-topic (hence I have refrained to do that wearing my company
>> hat, and I have discouraged others when they asked for my opinion on
>> this),
>> but I thought that a monthly thread like this would be both helpful to the
>> community and not cause overhead.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kostas
>>
>
>

[Kostas Tzoumas-2]

It seems that several folks are excited about the idea - but there is still
a concern on whether this would be spam for the dev@ and user@ lists (which
I share)

As a compromise, I propose to request a new mailing list (
[hidden email]) which we can use for this purpose, and also to
post upcoming meetups, conferences, etc. In order to inform the community
about this mailing list, we can cc the dev@ and user@ lists in the first
months until the new mailing list has ramped up.

On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 4:55 PM, Greg Hogan <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Google indexes the mailing list. Anyone can filter the messages to trash
> in a few clicks.
>
> This will also be a means for the community to better understand which and
> how companies are using Flink.
>
> On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 8:27 AM, Felix Neutatz <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I wonder whether a mailing list is a good choice for that in general. If
>> I am looking for a job I won't register for a mailing list or browse
>> through the archive of one but rather search it via Google. So what about
>> putting it on a dedicated site on the Web Page. This feels more intuitive
>> to me and gives a better overview.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Felix
>>
>> On Dec 9, 2016 14:20, "Ufuk Celebi" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9 December 2016 at 14:13:14, Robert Metzger ([hidden email])
>> wrote:
>> > I'm against using the news@ list for that.
>> > The promise of the news@ list is that its low-traffic and only for
>> news. If
>> > we now start having job offers (and potentially some questions on them
>> > etc.) it'll be a list with more than some announcements.
>> > That's also the reason why the news@ list is completely moderated.
>>
>> I agree with Robert. I would consider that to be spam if posted to news@.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

[Robert Metzger]

+1. I've requested the community@ mailing list from infra.

On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 10:40 AM, Kostas Tzoumas <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> It seems that several folks are excited about the idea - but there is still
> a concern on whether this would be spam for the dev@ and user@ lists
> (which
> I share)
>
> As a compromise, I propose to request a new mailing list (
> [hidden email]) which we can use for this purpose, and also to
> post upcoming meetups, conferences, etc. In order to inform the community
> about this mailing list, we can cc the dev@ and user@ lists in the first
> months until the new mailing list has ramped up.
>
> On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 4:55 PM, Greg Hogan <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Google indexes the mailing list. Anyone can filter the messages to trash
> > in a few clicks.
> >
> > This will also be a means for the community to better understand which
> and
> > how companies are using Flink.
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 8:27 AM, Felix Neutatz <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I wonder whether a mailing list is a good choice for that in general. If
> >> I am looking for a job I won't register for a mailing list or browse
> >> through the archive of one but rather search it via Google. So what
> about
> >> putting it on a dedicated site on the Web Page. This feels more
> intuitive
> >> to me and gives a better overview.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Felix
> >>
> >> On Dec 9, 2016 14:20, "Ufuk Celebi" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 9 December 2016 at 14:13:14, Robert Metzger ([hidden email])
> >> wrote:
> >> > I'm against using the news@ list for that.
> >> > The promise of the news@ list is that its low-traffic and only for
> >> news. If
> >> > we now start having job offers (and potentially some questions on them
> >> > etc.) it'll be a list with more than some announcements.
> >> > That's also the reason why the news@ list is completely moderated.
> >>
> >> I agree with Robert. I would consider that to be spam if posted to news@
> .
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>

[Robert Metzger]

The [hidden email] has been created :)

On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> +1. I've requested the community@ mailing list from infra.
>
> On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 10:40 AM, Kostas Tzoumas <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>> It seems that several folks are excited about the idea - but there is
>> still
>> a concern on whether this would be spam for the dev@ and user@ lists
>> (which
>> I share)
>>
>> As a compromise, I propose to request a new mailing list (
>> [hidden email]) which we can use for this purpose, and also
>> to
>> post upcoming meetups, conferences, etc. In order to inform the community
>> about this mailing list, we can cc the dev@ and user@ lists in the first
>> months until the new mailing list has ramped up.
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 4:55 PM, Greg Hogan <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> > Google indexes the mailing list. Anyone can filter the messages to trash
>> > in a few clicks.
>> >
>> > This will also be a means for the community to better understand which
>> and
>> > how companies are using Flink.
>> >
>> > On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 8:27 AM, Felix Neutatz <[hidden email]>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> I wonder whether a mailing list is a good choice for that in general.
>> If
>> >> I am looking for a job I won't register for a mailing list or browse
>> >> through the archive of one but rather search it via Google. So what
>> about
>> >> putting it on a dedicated site on the Web Page. This feels more
>> intuitive
>> >> to me and gives a better overview.
>> >>
>> >> Best regards,
>> >> Felix
>> >>
>> >> On Dec 9, 2016 14:20, "Ufuk Celebi" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 9 December 2016 at 14:13:14, Robert Metzger ([hidden email])
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > I'm against using the news@ list for that.
>> >> > The promise of the news@ list is that its low-traffic and only for
>> >> news. If
>> >> > we now start having job offers (and potentially some questions on
>> them
>> >> > etc.) it'll be a list with more than some announcements.
>> >> > That's also the reason why the news@ list is completely moderated.
>> >>
>> >> I agree with Robert. I would consider that to be spam if posted to
>> news@.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>
>