[DISCUSS] Move JIRA creation emails to separate list?

[Theodore Vasiloudis]

Hello all,

I'm not sure if this has been discussed  before (or if this is a an option
when joining the list in which case ignore this)
but I would like to suggest moving all the issue creation emails to a list
separate from dev.

Right now if I come back to the list after say a week most of the actual dev
discussions are pushed out from all the created JIRA emails.

I know I can filter these out myself, but I do feel like they belong to a
different list, this way we can focus on the discussion about
improvements etc. without all the JIRA noise.

Regards,
Theodore

[Aljoscha Krettek-2]

I'm afraid most people are ignoring this because they already have filters
set up and don't see it as a problem. If we now change the way the lists
are set up this could potentially break the personal mail setup of some
contributors.

On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 at 19:56 Theodore Vasiloudis <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I'm not sure if this has been discussed  before (or if this is a an option
> when joining the list in which case ignore this)
> but I would like to suggest moving all the issue creation emails to a list
> separate from dev.
>
> Right now if I come back to the list after say a week most of the actual
> dev
> discussions are pushed out from all the created JIRA emails.
>
> I know I can filter these out myself, but I do feel like they belong to a
> different list, this way we can focus on the discussion about
> improvements etc. without all the JIRA noise.
>
> Regards,
> Theodore
>

[Stephan Ewen]

Most of the JIRA noise should be on the "[hidden email]" list.
Make sure you are not subscribed there if you do not want that noise.




On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Aljoscha Krettek <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> I'm afraid most people are ignoring this because they already have filters
> set up and don't see it as a problem. If we now change the way the lists
> are set up this could potentially break the personal mail setup of some
> contributors.
>
> On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 at 19:56 Theodore Vasiloudis <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I'm not sure if this has been discussed  before (or if this is a an
> option
> > when joining the list in which case ignore this)
> > but I would like to suggest moving all the issue creation emails to a
> list
> > separate from dev.
> >
> > Right now if I come back to the list after say a week most of the actual
> > dev
> > discussions are pushed out from all the created JIRA emails.
> >
> > I know I can filter these out myself, but I do feel like they belong to a
> > different list, this way we can focus on the discussion about
> > improvements etc. without all the JIRA noise.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Theodore
> >
>

[Theodore Vasiloudis]

@Stephan, I'm not subscribed to issues@. The dev list itself includes JIRA
creation emails (check out the archives
<https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/flink-dev/201607.mbox/browser>)

@Aljoscha. It was mostly a concern for new users, who will get inundated
with JIRA emails until they set up a filter. I don't see how removing a set
of emails (and moving them to issues@) would be a problem for any filters
people have set up. Anything to do with JIRA issues should go to the issues
list, makes sense no?

On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 8:30 AM, Stephan Ewen <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Most of the JIRA noise should be on the "[hidden email]" list.
> Make sure you are not subscribed there if you do not want that noise.
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Aljoscha Krettek <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> > I'm afraid most people are ignoring this because they already have
> filters
> > set up and don't see it as a problem. If we now change the way the lists
> > are set up this could potentially break the personal mail setup of some
> > contributors.
> >
> > On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 at 19:56 Theodore Vasiloudis <
> > [hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello all,
> > >
> > > I'm not sure if this has been discussed  before (or if this is a an
> > option
> > > when joining the list in which case ignore this)
> > > but I would like to suggest moving all the issue creation emails to a
> > list
> > > separate from dev.
> > >
> > > Right now if I come back to the list after say a week most of the
> actual
> > > dev
> > > discussions are pushed out from all the created JIRA emails.
> > >
> > > I know I can filter these out myself, but I do feel like they belong
> to a
> > > different list, this way we can focus on the discussion about
> > > improvements etc. without all the JIRA noise.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Theodore
> > >
> >
>

[Ufuk Celebi-2]

I can see how issue creations only can be too noisy for people who
only check the dev list once in a while. If others feel like Theo, I
don't have an issue with not-mirroring issue creation to the dev list.
As a data point, in the past 30 days we have created 141 issues, which
should have been mirrored to the dev list.

On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 6:50 PM, Theodore Vasiloudis
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> @Stephan, I'm not subscribed to issues@. The dev list itself includes JIRA
> creation emails (check out the archives
> <https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/flink-dev/201607.mbox/browser>)
>
> @Aljoscha. It was mostly a concern for new users, who will get inundated
> with JIRA emails until they set up a filter. I don't see how removing a set
> of emails (and moving them to issues@) would be a problem for any filters
> people have set up. Anything to do with JIRA issues should go to the issues
> list, makes sense no?
>
> On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 8:30 AM, Stephan Ewen <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Most of the JIRA noise should be on the "[hidden email]" list.
>> Make sure you are not subscribed there if you do not want that noise.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Aljoscha Krettek <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I'm afraid most people are ignoring this because they already have
>> filters
>> > set up and don't see it as a problem. If we now change the way the lists
>> > are set up this could potentially break the personal mail setup of some
>> > contributors.
>> >
>> > On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 at 19:56 Theodore Vasiloudis <
>> > [hidden email]> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hello all,
>> > >
>> > > I'm not sure if this has been discussed  before (or if this is a an
>> > option
>> > > when joining the list in which case ignore this)
>> > > but I would like to suggest moving all the issue creation emails to a
>> > list
>> > > separate from dev.
>> > >
>> > > Right now if I come back to the list after say a week most of the
>> actual
>> > > dev
>> > > discussions are pushed out from all the created JIRA emails.
>> > >
>> > > I know I can filter these out myself, but I do feel like they belong
>> to a
>> > > different list, this way we can focus on the discussion about
>> > > improvements etc. without all the JIRA noise.
>> > >
>> > > Regards,
>> > > Theodore
>> > >
>> >
>>