[DISCUSS] Create a Flink ecosystem website

[Becket Qin]

Hi folks,

I would like to start a discussion thread about creating a Flink ecosystem
website. The website aims to help contributors who have developed projects
around Flink share their work with the community.

Please see the following doc for more details.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/12oCItoLbKrLGuwEUFcCfigezIR2hW3925j1hh3kGp4A/edit#

Thanks,

Jiangjie (Becket) Qin

[Robert Metzger]

Hey Becket,

This is a great idea!
For this to be successful, we need to make sure the page is placed
prominently so that the people submitting something will get attention for
their contributions.
I think a dynamic site would probably be better, if we want features such
as up and downvoting or comments.
I would also like this to be hosted on Apache infra, and endorsed by the
community.

Does anybody here know any existing software that we could use?
The only think I was able to find is AUR: https://aur.archlinux.org/ (which
is a community packages site for Arch Linux. The source code of this portal
is open source, but the layout and structure is not an ideal fit for our
requirements)

Best,
Robert



On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 12:03 PM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> I would like to start a discussion thread about creating a Flink ecosystem
> website. The website aims to help contributors who have developed projects
> around Flink share their work with the community.
>
> Please see the following doc for more details.
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/12oCItoLbKrLGuwEUFcCfigezIR2hW3925j1hh3kGp4A/edit#
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>

[bowen.li]

Thanks for bring it up, Becket. That sounds very good to me. Spark also has
such a page for ecosystem project
https://spark.apache.org/third-party-projects.html and a hosted website
https://spark-packages.org/ with metadata, categories/tags and stats
mentioned in the doc.

Bowen

On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 9:36 AM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hey Becket,
>
> This is a great idea!
> For this to be successful, we need to make sure the page is placed
> prominently so that the people submitting something will get attention for
> their contributions.
> I think a dynamic site would probably be better, if we want features such
> as up and downvoting or comments.
> I would also like this to be hosted on Apache infra, and endorsed by the
> community.
>
> Does anybody here know any existing software that we could use?
> The only think I was able to find is AUR: https://aur.archlinux.org/
> (which is a community packages site for Arch Linux. The source code of this
> portal is open source, but the layout and structure is not an ideal fit for
> our requirements)
>
> Best,
> Robert
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 12:03 PM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> I would like to start a discussion thread about creating a Flink
>> ecosystem website. The website aims to help contributors who have developed
>> projects around Flink share their work with the community.
>>
>> Please see the following doc for more details.
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/12oCItoLbKrLGuwEUFcCfigezIR2hW3925j1hh3kGp4A/edit#
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>
>

[vino yang]

Hi Becket,

Great idea!
+1 for this proposal.

Best,
Vino

Bowen Li <[hidden email]> 于2019年3月6日周三 上午6:24写道：

> Thanks for bring it up, Becket. That sounds very good to me. Spark also
> has such a page for ecosystem project
> https://spark.apache.org/third-party-projects.html and a hosted website
> https://spark-packages.org/ with metadata, categories/tags and stats
> mentioned in the doc.
>
> Bowen
>
> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 9:36 AM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hey Becket,
>>
>> This is a great idea!
>> For this to be successful, we need to make sure the page is placed
>> prominently so that the people submitting something will get attention for
>> their contributions.
>> I think a dynamic site would probably be better, if we want features such
>> as up and downvoting or comments.
>> I would also like this to be hosted on Apache infra, and endorsed by the
>> community.
>>
>> Does anybody here know any existing software that we could use?
>> The only think I was able to find is AUR: https://aur.archlinux.org/
>> (which is a community packages site for Arch Linux. The source code of this
>> portal is open source, but the layout and structure is not an ideal fit for
>> our requirements)
>>
>> Best,
>> Robert
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 12:03 PM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> I would like to start a discussion thread about creating a Flink
>>> ecosystem website. The website aims to help contributors who have developed
>>> projects around Flink share their work with the community.
>>>
>>> Please see the following doc for more details.
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/12oCItoLbKrLGuwEUFcCfigezIR2hW3925j1hh3kGp4A/edit#
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>
>>

[Shaoxuan Wang]

Hi Becket and Robert,

I like this idea!  Let us roll this out with Flink connectors at the first
beginning. We can start with a static page, and upgrade it when we find a
better solution for dynamic one with rich functions.

Regards,
Shaoxuan


On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 1:36 AM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hey Becket,
>
> This is a great idea!
> For this to be successful, we need to make sure the page is placed
> prominently so that the people submitting something will get attention for
> their contributions.
> I think a dynamic site would probably be better, if we want features such
> as up and downvoting or comments.
> I would also like this to be hosted on Apache infra, and endorsed by the
> community.
>
> Does anybody here know any existing software that we could use?
> The only think I was able to find is AUR: https://aur.archlinux.org/
> (which is a community packages site for Arch Linux. The source code of this
> portal is open source, but the layout and structure is not an ideal fit for
> our requirements)
>
> Best,
> Robert
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 12:03 PM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> I would like to start a discussion thread about creating a Flink
>> ecosystem website. The website aims to help contributors who have developed
>> projects around Flink share their work with the community.
>>
>> Please see the following doc for more details.
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/12oCItoLbKrLGuwEUFcCfigezIR2hW3925j1hh3kGp4A/edit#
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>
>

[Becket Qin]

Hi Robert,

Thanks for the feedback. These are good points. We should absolutely shoot
for a dynamic website to support more interactions in the community. There
might be a few things to solve:
1. The website code itself. An open source solution would be great. TBH, I
do not have much experience on building a website. It'll be great if
someone could help comment on the solution here.
2. The hardware to host the website. Apache Infra provides a few
services[1] that Apache projects can leverage. I did not see database
service, but maybe we can run a simple MySQL db in FreeBSD jail[2].

@Bowen & vino, thanks for the positive feedback!

@Shaoxuan Wang <[hidden email]>
Thanks for the suggestion. That sounds reasonable to me. We probably need a
page in the Flink official site anyways, even just provide links it to the
ecosystem website. So listing the connectors in that static page seems
something we could start with while we are working on the dynamic pages.

Thanks,

Jiangjie (Becket) Qin

On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:40 AM Shaoxuan Wang <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Becket and Robert,
>
> I like this idea!  Let us roll this out with Flink connectors at the first
> beginning. We can start with a static page, and upgrade it when we find a
> better solution for dynamic one with rich functions.
>
> Regards,
> Shaoxuan
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 1:36 AM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hey Becket,
>>
>> This is a great idea!
>> For this to be successful, we need to make sure the page is placed
>> prominently so that the people submitting something will get attention for
>> their contributions.
>> I think a dynamic site would probably be better, if we want features such
>> as up and downvoting or comments.
>> I would also like this to be hosted on Apache infra, and endorsed by the
>> community.
>>
>> Does anybody here know any existing software that we could use?
>> The only think I was able to find is AUR: https://aur.archlinux.org/
>> (which is a community packages site for Arch Linux. The source code of this
>> portal is open source, but the layout and structure is not an ideal fit for
>> our requirements)
>>
>> Best,
>> Robert
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 12:03 PM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> I would like to start a discussion thread about creating a Flink
>>> ecosystem website. The website aims to help contributors who have developed
>>> projects around Flink share their work with the community.
>>>
>>> Please see the following doc for more details.
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/12oCItoLbKrLGuwEUFcCfigezIR2hW3925j1hh3kGp4A/edit#
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>
>>

[Becket Qin]

Forgot to provide the link...

[1] https://www.apache.org/dev/services.html#blogs (Apache infra services)
[2] https://www.apache.org/dev/freebsd-jails (FreeBSD Jail provided by
Apache Infra)

On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:46 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Robert,
>
> Thanks for the feedback. These are good points. We should absolutely shoot
> for a dynamic website to support more interactions in the community. There
> might be a few things to solve:
> 1. The website code itself. An open source solution would be great. TBH, I
> do not have much experience on building a website. It'll be great if
> someone could help comment on the solution here.
> 2. The hardware to host the website. Apache Infra provides a few
> services[1] that Apache projects can leverage. I did not see database
> service, but maybe we can run a simple MySQL db in FreeBSD jail[2].
>
> @Bowen & vino, thanks for the positive feedback!
>
> @Shaoxuan Wang <[hidden email]>
> Thanks for the suggestion. That sounds reasonable to me. We probably need
> a page in the Flink official site anyways, even just provide links it to
> the ecosystem website. So listing the connectors in that static page seems
> something we could start with while we are working on the dynamic pages.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>
> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:40 AM Shaoxuan Wang <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Becket and Robert,
>>
>> I like this idea!  Let us roll this out with Flink connectors at the
>> first beginning. We can start with a static page, and upgrade it when we
>> find a better solution for dynamic one with rich functions.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Shaoxuan
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 1:36 AM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Becket,
>>>
>>> This is a great idea!
>>> For this to be successful, we need to make sure the page is placed
>>> prominently so that the people submitting something will get attention for
>>> their contributions.
>>> I think a dynamic site would probably be better, if we want features
>>> such as up and downvoting or comments.
>>> I would also like this to be hosted on Apache infra, and endorsed by the
>>> community.
>>>
>>> Does anybody here know any existing software that we could use?
>>> The only think I was able to find is AUR: https://aur.archlinux.org/
>>> (which is a community packages site for Arch Linux. The source code of this
>>> portal is open source, but the layout and structure is not an ideal fit for
>>> our requirements)
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Robert
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 12:03 PM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>
>>>> I would like to start a discussion thread about creating a Flink
>>>> ecosystem website. The website aims to help contributors who have developed
>>>> projects around Flink share their work with the community.
>>>>
>>>> Please see the following doc for more details.
>>>>
>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/12oCItoLbKrLGuwEUFcCfigezIR2hW3925j1hh3kGp4A/edit#
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>
>>>

[Robert Metzger]

Awesome! Thanks a lot for looking into this Becket! The VMs hosted by Infra
look suitable.

@Shaoxuan: There is actually already a static page. It used to be linked,
but has been removed from the navigation bar for some reason. This is the
page: https://flink.apache.org/ecosystem.html
We could update the page and add it back to the navigation bar for the
coming weeks. What do you think?

I would actually like to push for a dynamic page right away.

I know it's kind of a bold move, but how do you feel about sending the
owners of spark-packages.org a short note, if they are interested in
sharing the source? We could maintain the code together in a public repo.
If they are not interested in sharing, or we decide not to ask in the first
place, I'm happy to write down a short description of the requirements,
maybe some mockups. We could then see if we find somebody here in the
community who's willing to implement it.
Given the number of people who are eager to contribute, I believe we will
be able to find somebody pretty soon.


On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 3:49 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Forgot to provide the link...
>
> [1] https://www.apache.org/dev/services.html#blogs (Apache infra services)
> [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/freebsd-jails (FreeBSD Jail provided by
> Apache Infra)
>
> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:46 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Robert,
>>
>> Thanks for the feedback. These are good points. We should absolutely
>> shoot for a dynamic website to support more interactions in the community.
>> There might be a few things to solve:
>> 1. The website code itself. An open source solution would be great. TBH,
>> I do not have much experience on building a website. It'll be great if
>> someone could help comment on the solution here.
>> 2. The hardware to host the website. Apache Infra provides a few
>> services[1] that Apache projects can leverage. I did not see database
>> service, but maybe we can run a simple MySQL db in FreeBSD jail[2].
>>
>> @Bowen & vino, thanks for the positive feedback!
>>
>> @Shaoxuan Wang <[hidden email]>
>> Thanks for the suggestion. That sounds reasonable to me. We probably need
>> a page in the Flink official site anyways, even just provide links it to
>> the ecosystem website. So listing the connectors in that static page seems
>> something we could start with while we are working on the dynamic pages.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:40 AM Shaoxuan Wang <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Becket and Robert,
>>>
>>> I like this idea!  Let us roll this out with Flink connectors at the
>>> first beginning. We can start with a static page, and upgrade it when we
>>> find a better solution for dynamic one with rich functions.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Shaoxuan
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 1:36 AM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey Becket,
>>>>
>>>> This is a great idea!
>>>> For this to be successful, we need to make sure the page is placed
>>>> prominently so that the people submitting something will get attention for
>>>> their contributions.
>>>> I think a dynamic site would probably be better, if we want features
>>>> such as up and downvoting or comments.
>>>> I would also like this to be hosted on Apache infra, and endorsed by
>>>> the community.
>>>>
>>>> Does anybody here know any existing software that we could use?
>>>> The only think I was able to find is AUR: https://aur.archlinux.org/
>>>> (which is a community packages site for Arch Linux. The source code of this
>>>> portal is open source, but the layout and structure is not an ideal fit for
>>>> our requirements)
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Robert
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 12:03 PM Becket Qin <[hidden email]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to start a discussion thread about creating a Flink
>>>>> ecosystem website. The website aims to help contributors who have developed
>>>>> projects around Flink share their work with the community.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please see the following doc for more details.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/12oCItoLbKrLGuwEUFcCfigezIR2hW3925j1hh3kGp4A/edit#
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>
>>>>

[Ufuk Celebi-2]

I like Shaoxuan's idea to keep this a static site first. We could then
iterate on this and make it a dynamic thing. Of course, if we have the
resources in the community to quickly start with a dynamic site, I'm
not apposed.

– Ufuk

On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 2:31 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> Awesome! Thanks a lot for looking into this Becket! The VMs hosted by Infra
> look suitable.
>
> @Shaoxuan: There is actually already a static page. It used to be linked,
> but has been removed from the navigation bar for some reason. This is the
> page: https://flink.apache.org/ecosystem.html
> We could update the page and add it back to the navigation bar for the
> coming weeks. What do you think?
>
> I would actually like to push for a dynamic page right away.
>
> I know it's kind of a bold move, but how do you feel about sending the
> owners of spark-packages.org a short note, if they are interested in
> sharing the source? We could maintain the code together in a public repo.
> If they are not interested in sharing, or we decide not to ask in the first
> place, I'm happy to write down a short description of the requirements,
> maybe some mockups. We could then see if we find somebody here in the
> community who's willing to implement it.
> Given the number of people who are eager to contribute, I believe we will
> be able to find somebody pretty soon.
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 3:49 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Forgot to provide the link...
> >
> > [1] https://www.apache.org/dev/services.html#blogs (Apache infra services)
> > [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/freebsd-jails (FreeBSD Jail provided by
> > Apache Infra)
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:46 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Robert,
> >>
> >> Thanks for the feedback. These are good points. We should absolutely
> >> shoot for a dynamic website to support more interactions in the community.
> >> There might be a few things to solve:
> >> 1. The website code itself. An open source solution would be great. TBH,
> >> I do not have much experience on building a website. It'll be great if
> >> someone could help comment on the solution here.
> >> 2. The hardware to host the website. Apache Infra provides a few
> >> services[1] that Apache projects can leverage. I did not see database
> >> service, but maybe we can run a simple MySQL db in FreeBSD jail[2].
> >>
> >> @Bowen & vino, thanks for the positive feedback!
> >>
> >> @Shaoxuan Wang <[hidden email]>
> >> Thanks for the suggestion. That sounds reasonable to me. We probably need
> >> a page in the Flink official site anyways, even just provide links it to
> >> the ecosystem website. So listing the connectors in that static page seems
> >> something we could start with while we are working on the dynamic pages.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
> >>
> >> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:40 AM Shaoxuan Wang <[hidden email]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Becket and Robert,
> >>>
> >>> I like this idea!  Let us roll this out with Flink connectors at the
> >>> first beginning. We can start with a static page, and upgrade it when we
> >>> find a better solution for dynamic one with rich functions.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Shaoxuan
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 1:36 AM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hey Becket,
> >>>>
> >>>> This is a great idea!
> >>>> For this to be successful, we need to make sure the page is placed
> >>>> prominently so that the people submitting something will get attention for
> >>>> their contributions.
> >>>> I think a dynamic site would probably be better, if we want features
> >>>> such as up and downvoting or comments.
> >>>> I would also like this to be hosted on Apache infra, and endorsed by
> >>>> the community.
> >>>>
> >>>> Does anybody here know any existing software that we could use?
> >>>> The only think I was able to find is AUR: https://aur.archlinux.org/
> >>>> (which is a community packages site for Arch Linux. The source code of this
> >>>> portal is open source, but the layout and structure is not an ideal fit for
> >>>> our requirements)
> >>>>
> >>>> Best,
> >>>> Robert
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 12:03 PM Becket Qin <[hidden email]>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi folks,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I would like to start a discussion thread about creating a Flink
> >>>>> ecosystem website. The website aims to help contributors who have developed
> >>>>> projects around Flink share their work with the community.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Please see the following doc for more details.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/12oCItoLbKrLGuwEUFcCfigezIR2hW3925j1hh3kGp4A/edit#
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
> >>>>>
> >>>>

[Becket Qin]

Hi Robert,

I think it at least worths checking if spark-packages.org owners are
willing to share. Thanks for volunteering to write the requirement
descriptions! In any case, that will be very helpful.

Since a static page has almost no cost, and we will need it to redirect to
the dynamic site anyways, how about we first do that while working on the
dynamic website?

Thanks,

Jiangjie (Becket) Qin

On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 4:59 AM Ufuk Celebi <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I like Shaoxuan's idea to keep this a static site first. We could then
> iterate on this and make it a dynamic thing. Of course, if we have the
> resources in the community to quickly start with a dynamic site, I'm
> not apposed.
>
> – Ufuk
>
> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 2:31 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > Awesome! Thanks a lot for looking into this Becket! The VMs hosted by
> Infra
> > look suitable.
> >
> > @Shaoxuan: There is actually already a static page. It used to be linked,
> > but has been removed from the navigation bar for some reason. This is the
> > page: https://flink.apache.org/ecosystem.html
> > We could update the page and add it back to the navigation bar for the
> > coming weeks. What do you think?
> >
> > I would actually like to push for a dynamic page right away.
> >
> > I know it's kind of a bold move, but how do you feel about sending the
> > owners of spark-packages.org a short note, if they are interested in
> > sharing the source? We could maintain the code together in a public repo.
> > If they are not interested in sharing, or we decide not to ask in the
> first
> > place, I'm happy to write down a short description of the requirements,
> > maybe some mockups. We could then see if we find somebody here in the
> > community who's willing to implement it.
> > Given the number of people who are eager to contribute, I believe we will
> > be able to find somebody pretty soon.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 3:49 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > > Forgot to provide the link...
> > >
> > > [1] https://www.apache.org/dev/services.html#blogs (Apache infra
> services)
> > > [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/freebsd-jails (FreeBSD Jail provided by
> > > Apache Infra)
> > >
> > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:46 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Robert,
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for the feedback. These are good points. We should absolutely
> > >> shoot for a dynamic website to support more interactions in the
> community.
> > >> There might be a few things to solve:
> > >> 1. The website code itself. An open source solution would be great.
> TBH,
> > >> I do not have much experience on building a website. It'll be great if
> > >> someone could help comment on the solution here.
> > >> 2. The hardware to host the website. Apache Infra provides a few
> > >> services[1] that Apache projects can leverage. I did not see database
> > >> service, but maybe we can run a simple MySQL db in FreeBSD jail[2].
> > >>
> > >> @Bowen & vino, thanks for the positive feedback!
> > >>
> > >> @Shaoxuan Wang <[hidden email]>
> > >> Thanks for the suggestion. That sounds reasonable to me. We probably
> need
> > >> a page in the Flink official site anyways, even just provide links it
> to
> > >> the ecosystem website. So listing the connectors in that static page
> seems
> > >> something we could start with while we are working on the dynamic
> pages.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >>
> > >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:40 AM Shaoxuan Wang <[hidden email]>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hi Becket and Robert,
> > >>>
> > >>> I like this idea!  Let us roll this out with Flink connectors at the
> > >>> first beginning. We can start with a static page, and upgrade it
> when we
> > >>> find a better solution for dynamic one with rich functions.
> > >>>
> > >>> Regards,
> > >>> Shaoxuan
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 1:36 AM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Hey Becket,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> This is a great idea!
> > >>>> For this to be successful, we need to make sure the page is placed
> > >>>> prominently so that the people submitting something will get
> attention for
> > >>>> their contributions.
> > >>>> I think a dynamic site would probably be better, if we want features
> > >>>> such as up and downvoting or comments.
> > >>>> I would also like this to be hosted on Apache infra, and endorsed by
> > >>>> the community.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Does anybody here know any existing software that we could use?
> > >>>> The only think I was able to find is AUR:
> https://aur.archlinux.org/
> > >>>> (which is a community packages site for Arch Linux. The source code
> of this
> > >>>> portal is open source, but the layout and structure is not an ideal
> fit for
> > >>>> our requirements)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Best,
> > >>>> Robert
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 12:03 PM Becket Qin <[hidden email]>
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Hi folks,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I would like to start a discussion thread about creating a Flink
> > >>>>> ecosystem website. The website aims to help contributors who have
> developed
> > >>>>> projects around Flink share their work with the community.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Please see the following doc for more details.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/12oCItoLbKrLGuwEUFcCfigezIR2hW3925j1hh3kGp4A/edit#
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
>

[Robert Metzger]

Okay. I will reach out to spark-packages.org and see if they are willing to
share.

Do you want to raise a PR to update the ecosystem page (maybe sync with the
"Software Projects" listed here:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/Powered+by+Flink) and
link it in the navigation?

Best,
Robert


On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 10:13 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Robert,
>
> I think it at least worths checking if spark-packages.org owners are
> willing to share. Thanks for volunteering to write the requirement
> descriptions! In any case, that will be very helpful.
>
> Since a static page has almost no cost, and we will need it to redirect to
> the dynamic site anyways, how about we first do that while working on the
> dynamic website?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>
> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 4:59 AM Ufuk Celebi <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> I like Shaoxuan's idea to keep this a static site first. We could then
>> iterate on this and make it a dynamic thing. Of course, if we have the
>> resources in the community to quickly start with a dynamic site, I'm
>> not apposed.
>>
>> – Ufuk
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 2:31 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Awesome! Thanks a lot for looking into this Becket! The VMs hosted by
>> Infra
>> > look suitable.
>> >
>> > @Shaoxuan: There is actually already a static page. It used to be
>> linked,
>> > but has been removed from the navigation bar for some reason. This is
>> the
>> > page: https://flink.apache.org/ecosystem.html
>> > We could update the page and add it back to the navigation bar for the
>> > coming weeks. What do you think?
>> >
>> > I would actually like to push for a dynamic page right away.
>> >
>> > I know it's kind of a bold move, but how do you feel about sending the
>> > owners of spark-packages.org a short note, if they are interested in
>> > sharing the source? We could maintain the code together in a public
>> repo.
>> > If they are not interested in sharing, or we decide not to ask in the
>> first
>> > place, I'm happy to write down a short description of the requirements,
>> > maybe some mockups. We could then see if we find somebody here in the
>> > community who's willing to implement it.
>> > Given the number of people who are eager to contribute, I believe we
>> will
>> > be able to find somebody pretty soon.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 3:49 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Forgot to provide the link...
>> > >
>> > > [1] https://www.apache.org/dev/services.html#blogs (Apache infra
>> services)
>> > > [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/freebsd-jails (FreeBSD Jail provided
>> by
>> > > Apache Infra)
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:46 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Hi Robert,
>> > >>
>> > >> Thanks for the feedback. These are good points. We should absolutely
>> > >> shoot for a dynamic website to support more interactions in the
>> community.
>> > >> There might be a few things to solve:
>> > >> 1. The website code itself. An open source solution would be great.
>> TBH,
>> > >> I do not have much experience on building a website. It'll be great
>> if
>> > >> someone could help comment on the solution here.
>> > >> 2. The hardware to host the website. Apache Infra provides a few
>> > >> services[1] that Apache projects can leverage. I did not see database
>> > >> service, but maybe we can run a simple MySQL db in FreeBSD jail[2].
>> > >>
>> > >> @Bowen & vino, thanks for the positive feedback!
>> > >>
>> > >> @Shaoxuan Wang <[hidden email]>
>> > >> Thanks for the suggestion. That sounds reasonable to me. We probably
>> need
>> > >> a page in the Flink official site anyways, even just provide links
>> it to
>> > >> the ecosystem website. So listing the connectors in that static page
>> seems
>> > >> something we could start with while we are working on the dynamic
>> pages.
>> > >>
>> > >> Thanks,
>> > >>
>> > >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>> > >>
>> > >> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:40 AM Shaoxuan Wang <[hidden email]>
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> Hi Becket and Robert,
>> > >>>
>> > >>> I like this idea!  Let us roll this out with Flink connectors at the
>> > >>> first beginning. We can start with a static page, and upgrade it
>> when we
>> > >>> find a better solution for dynamic one with rich functions.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Regards,
>> > >>> Shaoxuan
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 1:36 AM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
>> > >>> wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> Hey Becket,
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> This is a great idea!
>> > >>>> For this to be successful, we need to make sure the page is placed
>> > >>>> prominently so that the people submitting something will get
>> attention for
>> > >>>> their contributions.
>> > >>>> I think a dynamic site would probably be better, if we want
>> features
>> > >>>> such as up and downvoting or comments.
>> > >>>> I would also like this to be hosted on Apache infra, and endorsed
>> by
>> > >>>> the community.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Does anybody here know any existing software that we could use?
>> > >>>> The only think I was able to find is AUR:
>> https://aur.archlinux.org/
>> > >>>> (which is a community packages site for Arch Linux. The source
>> code of this
>> > >>>> portal is open source, but the layout and structure is not an
>> ideal fit for
>> > >>>> our requirements)
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Best,
>> > >>>> Robert
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 12:03 PM Becket Qin <[hidden email]>
>> > >>>> wrote:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>> Hi folks,
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> I would like to start a discussion thread about creating a Flink
>> > >>>>> ecosystem website. The website aims to help contributors who have
>> developed
>> > >>>>> projects around Flink share their work with the community.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Please see the following doc for more details.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/12oCItoLbKrLGuwEUFcCfigezIR2hW3925j1hh3kGp4A/edit#
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Thanks,
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>
>>
>

[Becket Qin]

Absolutely! Thanks for the pointer. I'll submit a PR to update the
ecosystem page and the navigation.

Thanks,

Jiangjie (Becket) Qin

On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 8:47 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Okay. I will reach out to spark-packages.org and see if they are willing
> to share.
>
> Do you want to raise a PR to update the ecosystem page (maybe sync with
> the "Software Projects" listed here:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/Powered+by+Flink) and
> link it in the navigation?
>
> Best,
> Robert
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 10:13 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Robert,
>>
>> I think it at least worths checking if spark-packages.org owners are
>> willing to share. Thanks for volunteering to write the requirement
>> descriptions! In any case, that will be very helpful.
>>
>> Since a static page has almost no cost, and we will need it to redirect
>> to the dynamic site anyways, how about we first do that while working on
>> the dynamic website?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 4:59 AM Ufuk Celebi <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> I like Shaoxuan's idea to keep this a static site first. We could then
>>> iterate on this and make it a dynamic thing. Of course, if we have the
>>> resources in the community to quickly start with a dynamic site, I'm
>>> not apposed.
>>>
>>> – Ufuk
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 2:31 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Awesome! Thanks a lot for looking into this Becket! The VMs hosted by
>>> Infra
>>> > look suitable.
>>> >
>>> > @Shaoxuan: There is actually already a static page. It used to be
>>> linked,
>>> > but has been removed from the navigation bar for some reason. This is
>>> the
>>> > page: https://flink.apache.org/ecosystem.html
>>> > We could update the page and add it back to the navigation bar for the
>>> > coming weeks. What do you think?
>>> >
>>> > I would actually like to push for a dynamic page right away.
>>> >
>>> > I know it's kind of a bold move, but how do you feel about sending the
>>> > owners of spark-packages.org a short note, if they are interested in
>>> > sharing the source? We could maintain the code together in a public
>>> repo.
>>> > If they are not interested in sharing, or we decide not to ask in the
>>> first
>>> > place, I'm happy to write down a short description of the requirements,
>>> > maybe some mockups. We could then see if we find somebody here in the
>>> > community who's willing to implement it.
>>> > Given the number of people who are eager to contribute, I believe we
>>> will
>>> > be able to find somebody pretty soon.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 3:49 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Forgot to provide the link...
>>> > >
>>> > > [1] https://www.apache.org/dev/services.html#blogs (Apache infra
>>> services)
>>> > > [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/freebsd-jails (FreeBSD Jail provided
>>> by
>>> > > Apache Infra)
>>> > >
>>> > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:46 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]>
>>> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > >> Hi Robert,
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Thanks for the feedback. These are good points. We should absolutely
>>> > >> shoot for a dynamic website to support more interactions in the
>>> community.
>>> > >> There might be a few things to solve:
>>> > >> 1. The website code itself. An open source solution would be great.
>>> TBH,
>>> > >> I do not have much experience on building a website. It'll be great
>>> if
>>> > >> someone could help comment on the solution here.
>>> > >> 2. The hardware to host the website. Apache Infra provides a few
>>> > >> services[1] that Apache projects can leverage. I did not see
>>> database
>>> > >> service, but maybe we can run a simple MySQL db in FreeBSD jail[2].
>>> > >>
>>> > >> @Bowen & vino, thanks for the positive feedback!
>>> > >>
>>> > >> @Shaoxuan Wang <[hidden email]>
>>> > >> Thanks for the suggestion. That sounds reasonable to me. We
>>> probably need
>>> > >> a page in the Flink official site anyways, even just provide links
>>> it to
>>> > >> the ecosystem website. So listing the connectors in that static
>>> page seems
>>> > >> something we could start with while we are working on the dynamic
>>> pages.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Thanks,
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>> > >>
>>> > >> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:40 AM Shaoxuan Wang <[hidden email]>
>>> > >> wrote:
>>> > >>
>>> > >>> Hi Becket and Robert,
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> I like this idea!  Let us roll this out with Flink connectors at
>>> the
>>> > >>> first beginning. We can start with a static page, and upgrade it
>>> when we
>>> > >>> find a better solution for dynamic one with rich functions.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> Regards,
>>> > >>> Shaoxuan
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 1:36 AM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]
>>> >
>>> > >>> wrote:
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>> Hey Becket,
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> This is a great idea!
>>> > >>>> For this to be successful, we need to make sure the page is placed
>>> > >>>> prominently so that the people submitting something will get
>>> attention for
>>> > >>>> their contributions.
>>> > >>>> I think a dynamic site would probably be better, if we want
>>> features
>>> > >>>> such as up and downvoting or comments.
>>> > >>>> I would also like this to be hosted on Apache infra, and endorsed
>>> by
>>> > >>>> the community.
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> Does anybody here know any existing software that we could use?
>>> > >>>> The only think I was able to find is AUR:
>>> https://aur.archlinux.org/
>>> > >>>> (which is a community packages site for Arch Linux. The source
>>> code of this
>>> > >>>> portal is open source, but the layout and structure is not an
>>> ideal fit for
>>> > >>>> our requirements)
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> Best,
>>> > >>>> Robert
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 12:03 PM Becket Qin <[hidden email]>
>>> > >>>> wrote:
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>> Hi folks,
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>> I would like to start a discussion thread about creating a Flink
>>> > >>>>> ecosystem website. The website aims to help contributors who
>>> have developed
>>> > >>>>> projects around Flink share their work with the community.
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>> Please see the following doc for more details.
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/12oCItoLbKrLGuwEUFcCfigezIR2hW3925j1hh3kGp4A/edit#
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>> Thanks,
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>>
>>

[bowen.li]

Confluent hub <https://www.confluent.io/hub/> for Kafka is another good
example of this kind. I personally like it over the spark site. May worth
checking it out with Kafka folks

On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 6:06 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Absolutely! Thanks for the pointer. I'll submit a PR to update the
> ecosystem page and the navigation.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>
> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 8:47 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Okay. I will reach out to spark-packages.org and see if they are willing
> > to share.
> >
> > Do you want to raise a PR to update the ecosystem page (maybe sync with
> > the "Software Projects" listed here:
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/Powered+by+Flink) and
> > link it in the navigation?
> >
> > Best,
> > Robert
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 10:13 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Robert,
> >>
> >> I think it at least worths checking if spark-packages.org owners are
> >> willing to share. Thanks for volunteering to write the requirement
> >> descriptions! In any case, that will be very helpful.
> >>
> >> Since a static page has almost no cost, and we will need it to redirect
> >> to the dynamic site anyways, how about we first do that while working on
> >> the dynamic website?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
> >>
> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 4:59 AM Ufuk Celebi <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I like Shaoxuan's idea to keep this a static site first. We could then
> >>> iterate on this and make it a dynamic thing. Of course, if we have the
> >>> resources in the community to quickly start with a dynamic site, I'm
> >>> not apposed.
> >>>
> >>> – Ufuk
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 2:31 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > Awesome! Thanks a lot for looking into this Becket! The VMs hosted by
> >>> Infra
> >>> > look suitable.
> >>> >
> >>> > @Shaoxuan: There is actually already a static page. It used to be
> >>> linked,
> >>> > but has been removed from the navigation bar for some reason. This is
> >>> the
> >>> > page: https://flink.apache.org/ecosystem.html
> >>> > We could update the page and add it back to the navigation bar for
> the
> >>> > coming weeks. What do you think?
> >>> >
> >>> > I would actually like to push for a dynamic page right away.
> >>> >
> >>> > I know it's kind of a bold move, but how do you feel about sending
> the
> >>> > owners of spark-packages.org a short note, if they are interested in
> >>> > sharing the source? We could maintain the code together in a public
> >>> repo.
> >>> > If they are not interested in sharing, or we decide not to ask in the
> >>> first
> >>> > place, I'm happy to write down a short description of the
> requirements,
> >>> > maybe some mockups. We could then see if we find somebody here in the
> >>> > community who's willing to implement it.
> >>> > Given the number of people who are eager to contribute, I believe we
> >>> will
> >>> > be able to find somebody pretty soon.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 3:49 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > > Forgot to provide the link...
> >>> > >
> >>> > > [1] https://www.apache.org/dev/services.html#blogs (Apache infra
> >>> services)
> >>> > > [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/freebsd-jails (FreeBSD Jail
> provided
> >>> by
> >>> > > Apache Infra)
> >>> > >
> >>> > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:46 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > >
> >>> > >> Hi Robert,
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Thanks for the feedback. These are good points. We should
> absolutely
> >>> > >> shoot for a dynamic website to support more interactions in the
> >>> community.
> >>> > >> There might be a few things to solve:
> >>> > >> 1. The website code itself. An open source solution would be
> great.
> >>> TBH,
> >>> > >> I do not have much experience on building a website. It'll be
> great
> >>> if
> >>> > >> someone could help comment on the solution here.
> >>> > >> 2. The hardware to host the website. Apache Infra provides a few
> >>> > >> services[1] that Apache projects can leverage. I did not see
> >>> database
> >>> > >> service, but maybe we can run a simple MySQL db in FreeBSD
> jail[2].
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> @Bowen & vino, thanks for the positive feedback!
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> @Shaoxuan Wang <[hidden email]>
> >>> > >> Thanks for the suggestion. That sounds reasonable to me. We
> >>> probably need
> >>> > >> a page in the Flink official site anyways, even just provide links
> >>> it to
> >>> > >> the ecosystem website. So listing the connectors in that static
> >>> page seems
> >>> > >> something we could start with while we are working on the dynamic
> >>> pages.
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Thanks,
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:40 AM Shaoxuan Wang <
> [hidden email]>
> >>> > >> wrote:
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>> Hi Becket and Robert,
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> I like this idea!  Let us roll this out with Flink connectors at
> >>> the
> >>> > >>> first beginning. We can start with a static page, and upgrade it
> >>> when we
> >>> > >>> find a better solution for dynamic one with rich functions.
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> Regards,
> >>> > >>> Shaoxuan
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 1:36 AM Robert Metzger <
> [hidden email]
> >>> >
> >>> > >>> wrote:
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>>> Hey Becket,
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>> This is a great idea!
> >>> > >>>> For this to be successful, we need to make sure the page is
> placed
> >>> > >>>> prominently so that the people submitting something will get
> >>> attention for
> >>> > >>>> their contributions.
> >>> > >>>> I think a dynamic site would probably be better, if we want
> >>> features
> >>> > >>>> such as up and downvoting or comments.
> >>> > >>>> I would also like this to be hosted on Apache infra, and
> endorsed
> >>> by
> >>> > >>>> the community.
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>> Does anybody here know any existing software that we could use?
> >>> > >>>> The only think I was able to find is AUR:
> >>> https://aur.archlinux.org/
> >>> > >>>> (which is a community packages site for Arch Linux. The source
> >>> code of this
> >>> > >>>> portal is open source, but the layout and structure is not an
> >>> ideal fit for
> >>> > >>>> our requirements)
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>> Best,
> >>> > >>>> Robert
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 12:03 PM Becket Qin <
> [hidden email]>
> >>> > >>>> wrote:
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>> Hi folks,
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>> I would like to start a discussion thread about creating a
> Flink
> >>> > >>>>> ecosystem website. The website aims to help contributors who
> >>> have developed
> >>> > >>>>> projects around Flink share their work with the community.
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>> Please see the following doc for more details.
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/12oCItoLbKrLGuwEUFcCfigezIR2hW3925j1hh3kGp4A/edit#
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>> Thanks,
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>>
> >>
>

[Niels Basjes]

Hi,

The Beam project has something in this area that is simply a page
within their documentation website:
https://beam.apache.org/documentation/sdks/java-thirdparty/

Niels Basjes

On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 11:39 PM Bowen Li <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> Confluent hub for Kafka is another good example of this kind. I personally like it over the spark site. May worth checking it out with Kafka folks
>
> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 6:06 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Absolutely! Thanks for the pointer. I'll submit a PR to update the
>> ecosystem page and the navigation.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 8:47 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> > Okay. I will reach out to spark-packages.org and see if they are willing
>> > to share.
>> >
>> > Do you want to raise a PR to update the ecosystem page (maybe sync with
>> > the "Software Projects" listed here:
>> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/Powered+by+Flink) and
>> > link it in the navigation?
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > Robert
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 10:13 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi Robert,
>> >>
>> >> I think it at least worths checking if spark-packages.org owners are
>> >> willing to share. Thanks for volunteering to write the requirement
>> >> descriptions! In any case, that will be very helpful.
>> >>
>> >> Since a static page has almost no cost, and we will need it to redirect
>> >> to the dynamic site anyways, how about we first do that while working on
>> >> the dynamic website?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >>
>> >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 4:59 AM Ufuk Celebi <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I like Shaoxuan's idea to keep this a static site first. We could then
>> >>> iterate on this and make it a dynamic thing. Of course, if we have the
>> >>> resources in the community to quickly start with a dynamic site, I'm
>> >>> not apposed.
>> >>>
>> >>> – Ufuk
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 2:31 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Awesome! Thanks a lot for looking into this Becket! The VMs hosted by
>> >>> Infra
>> >>> > look suitable.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > @Shaoxuan: There is actually already a static page. It used to be
>> >>> linked,
>> >>> > but has been removed from the navigation bar for some reason. This is
>> >>> the
>> >>> > page: https://flink.apache.org/ecosystem.html
>> >>> > We could update the page and add it back to the navigation bar for the
>> >>> > coming weeks. What do you think?
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I would actually like to push for a dynamic page right away.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I know it's kind of a bold move, but how do you feel about sending the
>> >>> > owners of spark-packages.org a short note, if they are interested in
>> >>> > sharing the source? We could maintain the code together in a public
>> >>> repo.
>> >>> > If they are not interested in sharing, or we decide not to ask in the
>> >>> first
>> >>> > place, I'm happy to write down a short description of the requirements,
>> >>> > maybe some mockups. We could then see if we find somebody here in the
>> >>> > community who's willing to implement it.
>> >>> > Given the number of people who are eager to contribute, I believe we
>> >>> will
>> >>> > be able to find somebody pretty soon.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 3:49 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > > Forgot to provide the link...
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > [1] https://www.apache.org/dev/services.html#blogs (Apache infra
>> >>> services)
>> >>> > > [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/freebsd-jails (FreeBSD Jail provided
>> >>> by
>> >>> > > Apache Infra)
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:46 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > >> Hi Robert,
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> Thanks for the feedback. These are good points. We should absolutely
>> >>> > >> shoot for a dynamic website to support more interactions in the
>> >>> community.
>> >>> > >> There might be a few things to solve:
>> >>> > >> 1. The website code itself. An open source solution would be great.
>> >>> TBH,
>> >>> > >> I do not have much experience on building a website. It'll be great
>> >>> if
>> >>> > >> someone could help comment on the solution here.
>> >>> > >> 2. The hardware to host the website. Apache Infra provides a few
>> >>> > >> services[1] that Apache projects can leverage. I did not see
>> >>> database
>> >>> > >> service, but maybe we can run a simple MySQL db in FreeBSD jail[2].
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> @Bowen & vino, thanks for the positive feedback!
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> @Shaoxuan Wang <[hidden email]>
>> >>> > >> Thanks for the suggestion. That sounds reasonable to me. We
>> >>> probably need
>> >>> > >> a page in the Flink official site anyways, even just provide links
>> >>> it to
>> >>> > >> the ecosystem website. So listing the connectors in that static
>> >>> page seems
>> >>> > >> something we could start with while we are working on the dynamic
>> >>> pages.
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> Thanks,
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:40 AM Shaoxuan Wang <[hidden email]>
>> >>> > >> wrote:
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >>> Hi Becket and Robert,
>> >>> > >>>
>> >>> > >>> I like this idea!  Let us roll this out with Flink connectors at
>> >>> the
>> >>> > >>> first beginning. We can start with a static page, and upgrade it
>> >>> when we
>> >>> > >>> find a better solution for dynamic one with rich functions.
>> >>> > >>>
>> >>> > >>> Regards,
>> >>> > >>> Shaoxuan
>> >>> > >>>
>> >>> > >>>
>> >>> > >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 1:36 AM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]
>> >>> >
>> >>> > >>> wrote:
>> >>> > >>>
>> >>> > >>>> Hey Becket,
>> >>> > >>>>
>> >>> > >>>> This is a great idea!
>> >>> > >>>> For this to be successful, we need to make sure the page is placed
>> >>> > >>>> prominently so that the people submitting something will get
>> >>> attention for
>> >>> > >>>> their contributions.
>> >>> > >>>> I think a dynamic site would probably be better, if we want
>> >>> features
>> >>> > >>>> such as up and downvoting or comments.
>> >>> > >>>> I would also like this to be hosted on Apache infra, and endorsed
>> >>> by
>> >>> > >>>> the community.
>> >>> > >>>>
>> >>> > >>>> Does anybody here know any existing software that we could use?
>> >>> > >>>> The only think I was able to find is AUR:
>> >>> https://aur.archlinux.org/
>> >>> > >>>> (which is a community packages site for Arch Linux. The source
>> >>> code of this
>> >>> > >>>> portal is open source, but the layout and structure is not an
>> >>> ideal fit for
>> >>> > >>>> our requirements)
>> >>> > >>>>
>> >>> > >>>> Best,
>> >>> > >>>> Robert
>> >>> > >>>>
>> >>> > >>>>
>> >>> > >>>>
>> >>> > >>>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 12:03 PM Becket Qin <[hidden email]>
>> >>> > >>>> wrote:
>> >>> > >>>>
>> >>> > >>>>> Hi folks,
>> >>> > >>>>>
>> >>> > >>>>> I would like to start a discussion thread about creating a Flink
>> >>> > >>>>> ecosystem website. The website aims to help contributors who
>> >>> have developed
>> >>> > >>>>> projects around Flink share their work with the community.
>> >>> > >>>>>
>> >>> > >>>>> Please see the following doc for more details.
>> >>> > >>>>>
>> >>> > >>>>>
>> >>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/12oCItoLbKrLGuwEUFcCfigezIR2hW3925j1hh3kGp4A/edit#
>> >>> > >>>>>
>> >>> > >>>>> Thanks,
>> >>> > >>>>>
>> >>> > >>>>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>> >>> > >>>>>
>> >>> > >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>

--
Best regards / Met vriendelijke groeten,

Niels Basjes

[Robert Metzger]

@Bowen: I agree. Confluent Hub looks nicer, but it is on their company
website. I guess the likelihood that they give out code from their company
website is fairly low.
@Nils: Beam's page is similar to our Ecosystem page, which we'll reactivate
as part of this PR: https://github.com/apache/flink-web/pull/187

Spark-packages.org did not respond to my request.
I will propose a short specification in Becket's initial document.


On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 11:38 AM Niels Basjes <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The Beam project has something in this area that is simply a page
> within their documentation website:
> https://beam.apache.org/documentation/sdks/java-thirdparty/
>
> Niels Basjes
>
> On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 11:39 PM Bowen Li <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > Confluent hub for Kafka is another good example of this kind. I
> personally like it over the spark site. May worth checking it out with
> Kafka folks
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 6:06 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Absolutely! Thanks for the pointer. I'll submit a PR to update the
> >> ecosystem page and the navigation.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
> >>
> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 8:47 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Okay. I will reach out to spark-packages.org and see if they are
> willing
> >> > to share.
> >> >
> >> > Do you want to raise a PR to update the ecosystem page (maybe sync
> with
> >> > the "Software Projects" listed here:
> >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/Powered+by+Flink)
> and
> >> > link it in the navigation?
> >> >
> >> > Best,
> >> > Robert
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 10:13 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi Robert,
> >> >>
> >> >> I think it at least worths checking if spark-packages.org owners are
> >> >> willing to share. Thanks for volunteering to write the requirement
> >> >> descriptions! In any case, that will be very helpful.
> >> >>
> >> >> Since a static page has almost no cost, and we will need it to
> redirect
> >> >> to the dynamic site anyways, how about we first do that while
> working on
> >> >> the dynamic website?
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks,
> >> >>
> >> >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
> >> >>
> >> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 4:59 AM Ufuk Celebi <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> I like Shaoxuan's idea to keep this a static site first. We could
> then
> >> >>> iterate on this and make it a dynamic thing. Of course, if we have
> the
> >> >>> resources in the community to quickly start with a dynamic site, I'm
> >> >>> not apposed.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> – Ufuk
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 2:31 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Awesome! Thanks a lot for looking into this Becket! The VMs
> hosted by
> >> >>> Infra
> >> >>> > look suitable.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > @Shaoxuan: There is actually already a static page. It used to be
> >> >>> linked,
> >> >>> > but has been removed from the navigation bar for some reason.
> This is
> >> >>> the
> >> >>> > page: https://flink.apache.org/ecosystem.html
> >> >>> > We could update the page and add it back to the navigation bar
> for the
> >> >>> > coming weeks. What do you think?
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > I would actually like to push for a dynamic page right away.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > I know it's kind of a bold move, but how do you feel about
> sending the
> >> >>> > owners of spark-packages.org a short note, if they are
> interested in
> >> >>> > sharing the source? We could maintain the code together in a
> public
> >> >>> repo.
> >> >>> > If they are not interested in sharing, or we decide not to ask in
> the
> >> >>> first
> >> >>> > place, I'm happy to write down a short description of the
> requirements,
> >> >>> > maybe some mockups. We could then see if we find somebody here in
> the
> >> >>> > community who's willing to implement it.
> >> >>> > Given the number of people who are eager to contribute, I believe
> we
> >> >>> will
> >> >>> > be able to find somebody pretty soon.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 3:49 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]>
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > > Forgot to provide the link...
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > > [1] https://www.apache.org/dev/services.html#blogs (Apache
> infra
> >> >>> services)
> >> >>> > > [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/freebsd-jails (FreeBSD Jail
> provided
> >> >>> by
> >> >>> > > Apache Infra)
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:46 AM Becket Qin <
> [hidden email]>
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > >> Hi Robert,
> >> >>> > >>
> >> >>> > >> Thanks for the feedback. These are good points. We should
> absolutely
> >> >>> > >> shoot for a dynamic website to support more interactions in the
> >> >>> community.
> >> >>> > >> There might be a few things to solve:
> >> >>> > >> 1. The website code itself. An open source solution would be
> great.
> >> >>> TBH,
> >> >>> > >> I do not have much experience on building a website. It'll be
> great
> >> >>> if
> >> >>> > >> someone could help comment on the solution here.
> >> >>> > >> 2. The hardware to host the website. Apache Infra provides a
> few
> >> >>> > >> services[1] that Apache projects can leverage. I did not see
> >> >>> database
> >> >>> > >> service, but maybe we can run a simple MySQL db in FreeBSD
> jail[2].
> >> >>> > >>
> >> >>> > >> @Bowen & vino, thanks for the positive feedback!
> >> >>> > >>
> >> >>> > >> @Shaoxuan Wang <[hidden email]>
> >> >>> > >> Thanks for the suggestion. That sounds reasonable to me. We
> >> >>> probably need
> >> >>> > >> a page in the Flink official site anyways, even just provide
> links
> >> >>> it to
> >> >>> > >> the ecosystem website. So listing the connectors in that static
> >> >>> page seems
> >> >>> > >> something we could start with while we are working on the
> dynamic
> >> >>> pages.
> >> >>> > >>
> >> >>> > >> Thanks,
> >> >>> > >>
> >> >>> > >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
> >> >>> > >>
> >> >>> > >> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:40 AM Shaoxuan Wang <
> [hidden email]>
> >> >>> > >> wrote:
> >> >>> > >>
> >> >>> > >>> Hi Becket and Robert,
> >> >>> > >>>
> >> >>> > >>> I like this idea!  Let us roll this out with Flink connectors
> at
> >> >>> the
> >> >>> > >>> first beginning. We can start with a static page, and upgrade
> it
> >> >>> when we
> >> >>> > >>> find a better solution for dynamic one with rich functions.
> >> >>> > >>>
> >> >>> > >>> Regards,
> >> >>> > >>> Shaoxuan
> >> >>> > >>>
> >> >>> > >>>
> >> >>> > >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 1:36 AM Robert Metzger <
> [hidden email]
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > >>> wrote:
> >> >>> > >>>
> >> >>> > >>>> Hey Becket,
> >> >>> > >>>>
> >> >>> > >>>> This is a great idea!
> >> >>> > >>>> For this to be successful, we need to make sure the page is
> placed
> >> >>> > >>>> prominently so that the people submitting something will get
> >> >>> attention for
> >> >>> > >>>> their contributions.
> >> >>> > >>>> I think a dynamic site would probably be better, if we want
> >> >>> features
> >> >>> > >>>> such as up and downvoting or comments.
> >> >>> > >>>> I would also like this to be hosted on Apache infra, and
> endorsed
> >> >>> by
> >> >>> > >>>> the community.
> >> >>> > >>>>
> >> >>> > >>>> Does anybody here know any existing software that we could
> use?
> >> >>> > >>>> The only think I was able to find is AUR:
> >> >>> https://aur.archlinux.org/
> >> >>> > >>>> (which is a community packages site for Arch Linux. The
> source
> >> >>> code of this
> >> >>> > >>>> portal is open source, but the layout and structure is not an
> >> >>> ideal fit for
> >> >>> > >>>> our requirements)
> >> >>> > >>>>
> >> >>> > >>>> Best,
> >> >>> > >>>> Robert
> >> >>> > >>>>
> >> >>> > >>>>
> >> >>> > >>>>
> >> >>> > >>>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 12:03 PM Becket Qin <
> [hidden email]>
> >> >>> > >>>> wrote:
> >> >>> > >>>>
> >> >>> > >>>>> Hi folks,
> >> >>> > >>>>>
> >> >>> > >>>>> I would like to start a discussion thread about creating a
> Flink
> >> >>> > >>>>> ecosystem website. The website aims to help contributors who
> >> >>> have developed
> >> >>> > >>>>> projects around Flink share their work with the community.
> >> >>> > >>>>>
> >> >>> > >>>>> Please see the following doc for more details.
> >> >>> > >>>>>
> >> >>> > >>>>>
> >> >>>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/12oCItoLbKrLGuwEUFcCfigezIR2hW3925j1hh3kGp4A/edit#
> >> >>> > >>>>>
> >> >>> > >>>>> Thanks,
> >> >>> > >>>>>
> >> >>> > >>>>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
> >> >>> > >>>>>
> >> >>> > >>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
>
>
>
> --
> Best regards / Met vriendelijke groeten,
>
> Niels Basjes
>

[Becket Qin]

Thanks for writing up the specifications.

Regarding the website source code, Austin found a website[1] whose frontend
code[2] is available publicly. It lacks some support (e.g login), but it is
still a good starting point. One thing is that I did not find a License
statement for that source code. I'll reach out to the author to see if they
have any concern over our usage.

Apache Infra has not replied to my email regarding some details about the
VM. I'll open an infra Jira ticket tomorrow if there is still no response.

Thanks,

Jiangjie (Becket) Qin

[1] https://emberobserver.com/
[2] https://github.com/emberobserver/client



On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 1:35 AM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:

> @Bowen: I agree. Confluent Hub looks nicer, but it is on their company
> website. I guess the likelihood that they give out code from their company
> website is fairly low.
> @Nils: Beam's page is similar to our Ecosystem page, which we'll
> reactivate as part of this PR:
> https://github.com/apache/flink-web/pull/187
>
> Spark-packages.org did not respond to my request.
> I will propose a short specification in Becket's initial document.
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 11:38 AM Niels Basjes <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> The Beam project has something in this area that is simply a page
>> within their documentation website:
>> https://beam.apache.org/documentation/sdks/java-thirdparty/
>>
>> Niels Basjes
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 11:39 PM Bowen Li <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >
>> > Confluent hub for Kafka is another good example of this kind. I
>> personally like it over the spark site. May worth checking it out with
>> Kafka folks
>> >
>> > On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 6:06 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Absolutely! Thanks for the pointer. I'll submit a PR to update the
>> >> ecosystem page and the navigation.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >>
>> >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 8:47 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Okay. I will reach out to spark-packages.org and see if they are
>> willing
>> >> > to share.
>> >> >
>> >> > Do you want to raise a PR to update the ecosystem page (maybe sync
>> with
>> >> > the "Software Projects" listed here:
>> >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/Powered+by+Flink)
>> and
>> >> > link it in the navigation?
>> >> >
>> >> > Best,
>> >> > Robert
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 10:13 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Hi Robert,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I think it at least worths checking if spark-packages.org owners
>> are
>> >> >> willing to share. Thanks for volunteering to write the requirement
>> >> >> descriptions! In any case, that will be very helpful.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Since a static page has almost no cost, and we will need it to
>> redirect
>> >> >> to the dynamic site anyways, how about we first do that while
>> working on
>> >> >> the dynamic website?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 4:59 AM Ufuk Celebi <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> I like Shaoxuan's idea to keep this a static site first. We could
>> then
>> >> >>> iterate on this and make it a dynamic thing. Of course, if we have
>> the
>> >> >>> resources in the community to quickly start with a dynamic site,
>> I'm
>> >> >>> not apposed.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> – Ufuk
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 2:31 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]
>> >
>> >> >>> wrote:
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > Awesome! Thanks a lot for looking into this Becket! The VMs
>> hosted by
>> >> >>> Infra
>> >> >>> > look suitable.
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > @Shaoxuan: There is actually already a static page. It used to be
>> >> >>> linked,
>> >> >>> > but has been removed from the navigation bar for some reason.
>> This is
>> >> >>> the
>> >> >>> > page: https://flink.apache.org/ecosystem.html
>> >> >>> > We could update the page and add it back to the navigation bar
>> for the
>> >> >>> > coming weeks. What do you think?
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > I would actually like to push for a dynamic page right away.
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > I know it's kind of a bold move, but how do you feel about
>> sending the
>> >> >>> > owners of spark-packages.org a short note, if they are
>> interested in
>> >> >>> > sharing the source? We could maintain the code together in a
>> public
>> >> >>> repo.
>> >> >>> > If they are not interested in sharing, or we decide not to ask
>> in the
>> >> >>> first
>> >> >>> > place, I'm happy to write down a short description of the
>> requirements,
>> >> >>> > maybe some mockups. We could then see if we find somebody here
>> in the
>> >> >>> > community who's willing to implement it.
>> >> >>> > Given the number of people who are eager to contribute, I
>> believe we
>> >> >>> will
>> >> >>> > be able to find somebody pretty soon.
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 3:49 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]>
>> >> >>> wrote:
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > > Forgot to provide the link...
>> >> >>> > >
>> >> >>> > > [1] https://www.apache.org/dev/services.html#blogs (Apache
>> infra
>> >> >>> services)
>> >> >>> > > [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/freebsd-jails (FreeBSD Jail
>> provided
>> >> >>> by
>> >> >>> > > Apache Infra)
>> >> >>> > >
>> >> >>> > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:46 AM Becket Qin <
>> [hidden email]>
>> >> >>> wrote:
>> >> >>> > >
>> >> >>> > >> Hi Robert,
>> >> >>> > >>
>> >> >>> > >> Thanks for the feedback. These are good points. We should
>> absolutely
>> >> >>> > >> shoot for a dynamic website to support more interactions in
>> the
>> >> >>> community.
>> >> >>> > >> There might be a few things to solve:
>> >> >>> > >> 1. The website code itself. An open source solution would be
>> great.
>> >> >>> TBH,
>> >> >>> > >> I do not have much experience on building a website. It'll be
>> great
>> >> >>> if
>> >> >>> > >> someone could help comment on the solution here.
>> >> >>> > >> 2. The hardware to host the website. Apache Infra provides a
>> few
>> >> >>> > >> services[1] that Apache projects can leverage. I did not see
>> >> >>> database
>> >> >>> > >> service, but maybe we can run a simple MySQL db in FreeBSD
>> jail[2].
>> >> >>> > >>
>> >> >>> > >> @Bowen & vino, thanks for the positive feedback!
>> >> >>> > >>
>> >> >>> > >> @Shaoxuan Wang <[hidden email]>
>> >> >>> > >> Thanks for the suggestion. That sounds reasonable to me. We
>> >> >>> probably need
>> >> >>> > >> a page in the Flink official site anyways, even just provide
>> links
>> >> >>> it to
>> >> >>> > >> the ecosystem website. So listing the connectors in that
>> static
>> >> >>> page seems
>> >> >>> > >> something we could start with while we are working on the
>> dynamic
>> >> >>> pages.
>> >> >>> > >>
>> >> >>> > >> Thanks,
>> >> >>> > >>
>> >> >>> > >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>> >> >>> > >>
>> >> >>> > >> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:40 AM Shaoxuan Wang <
>> [hidden email]>
>> >> >>> > >> wrote:
>> >> >>> > >>
>> >> >>> > >>> Hi Becket and Robert,
>> >> >>> > >>>
>> >> >>> > >>> I like this idea!  Let us roll this out with Flink
>> connectors at
>> >> >>> the
>> >> >>> > >>> first beginning. We can start with a static page, and
>> upgrade it
>> >> >>> when we
>> >> >>> > >>> find a better solution for dynamic one with rich functions.
>> >> >>> > >>>
>> >> >>> > >>> Regards,
>> >> >>> > >>> Shaoxuan
>> >> >>> > >>>
>> >> >>> > >>>
>> >> >>> > >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 1:36 AM Robert Metzger <
>> [hidden email]
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > >>> wrote:
>> >> >>> > >>>
>> >> >>> > >>>> Hey Becket,
>> >> >>> > >>>>
>> >> >>> > >>>> This is a great idea!
>> >> >>> > >>>> For this to be successful, we need to make sure the page is
>> placed
>> >> >>> > >>>> prominently so that the people submitting something will get
>> >> >>> attention for
>> >> >>> > >>>> their contributions.
>> >> >>> > >>>> I think a dynamic site would probably be better, if we want
>> >> >>> features
>> >> >>> > >>>> such as up and downvoting or comments.
>> >> >>> > >>>> I would also like this to be hosted on Apache infra, and
>> endorsed
>> >> >>> by
>> >> >>> > >>>> the community.
>> >> >>> > >>>>
>> >> >>> > >>>> Does anybody here know any existing software that we could
>> use?
>> >> >>> > >>>> The only think I was able to find is AUR:
>> >> >>> https://aur.archlinux.org/
>> >> >>> > >>>> (which is a community packages site for Arch Linux. The
>> source
>> >> >>> code of this
>> >> >>> > >>>> portal is open source, but the layout and structure is not
>> an
>> >> >>> ideal fit for
>> >> >>> > >>>> our requirements)
>> >> >>> > >>>>
>> >> >>> > >>>> Best,
>> >> >>> > >>>> Robert
>> >> >>> > >>>>
>> >> >>> > >>>>
>> >> >>> > >>>>
>> >> >>> > >>>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 12:03 PM Becket Qin <
>> [hidden email]>
>> >> >>> > >>>> wrote:
>> >> >>> > >>>>
>> >> >>> > >>>>> Hi folks,
>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>> >> >>> > >>>>> I would like to start a discussion thread about creating a
>> Flink
>> >> >>> > >>>>> ecosystem website. The website aims to help contributors
>> who
>> >> >>> have developed
>> >> >>> > >>>>> projects around Flink share their work with the community.
>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>> >> >>> > >>>>> Please see the following doc for more details.
>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>> >> >>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/12oCItoLbKrLGuwEUFcCfigezIR2hW3925j1hh3kGp4A/edit#
>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>> >> >>> > >>>>> Thanks,
>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>> >> >>> > >>>>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>> >> >>> > >>>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best regards / Met vriendelijke groeten,
>>
>> Niels Basjes
>>
>

[Robert Metzger]

Thank you for reaching out to Infra and the ember client.
When I first saw the Ember repository, I thought it is the whole thing
(frontend and backend), but while testing it, I realized it is "only" the
frontend. I'm not sure if it makes sense to adjust the Ember observer
client, or just write a simple UI from scratch.
I have a very capable and motivated frontend developer who would be willing
to implement what I've mocked in my proposal.
In addition, I found somebody (Congxian Qiu) who seems to be eager to help
with this project for the backend:
https://github.com/rmetzger/flink-community-tools/issues/4

For Infra: I made the same experience when asking for more GitHub
permissions for "flinkbot": They didn't respond on their mailing list, only
on Jira.



On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 2:45 PM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Thanks for writing up the specifications.
>
> Regarding the website source code, Austin found a website[1] whose
> frontend code[2] is available publicly. It lacks some support (e.g login),
> but it is still a good starting point. One thing is that I did not find a
> License statement for that source code. I'll reach out to the author to see
> if they have any concern over our usage.
>
> Apache Infra has not replied to my email regarding some details about the
> VM. I'll open an infra Jira ticket tomorrow if there is still no response.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>
> [1] https://emberobserver.com/
> [2] https://github.com/emberobserver/client
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 1:35 AM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>> @Bowen: I agree. Confluent Hub looks nicer, but it is on their company
>> website. I guess the likelihood that they give out code from their company
>> website is fairly low.
>> @Nils: Beam's page is similar to our Ecosystem page, which we'll
>> reactivate as part of this PR:
>> https://github.com/apache/flink-web/pull/187
>>
>> Spark-packages.org did not respond to my request.
>> I will propose a short specification in Becket's initial document.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 11:38 AM Niels Basjes <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> The Beam project has something in this area that is simply a page
>>> within their documentation website:
>>> https://beam.apache.org/documentation/sdks/java-thirdparty/
>>>
>>> Niels Basjes
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 11:39 PM Bowen Li <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Confluent hub for Kafka is another good example of this kind. I
>>> personally like it over the spark site. May worth checking it out with
>>> Kafka folks
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 6:06 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Absolutely! Thanks for the pointer. I'll submit a PR to update the
>>> >> ecosystem page and the navigation.
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks,
>>> >>
>>> >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>> >>
>>> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 8:47 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> > Okay. I will reach out to spark-packages.org and see if they are
>>> willing
>>> >> > to share.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Do you want to raise a PR to update the ecosystem page (maybe sync
>>> with
>>> >> > the "Software Projects" listed here:
>>> >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/Powered+by+Flink)
>>> and
>>> >> > link it in the navigation?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Best,
>>> >> > Robert
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 10:13 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]>
>>> wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> Hi Robert,
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> I think it at least worths checking if spark-packages.org owners
>>> are
>>> >> >> willing to share. Thanks for volunteering to write the requirement
>>> >> >> descriptions! In any case, that will be very helpful.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Since a static page has almost no cost, and we will need it to
>>> redirect
>>> >> >> to the dynamic site anyways, how about we first do that while
>>> working on
>>> >> >> the dynamic website?
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Thanks,
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 4:59 AM Ufuk Celebi <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>> I like Shaoxuan's idea to keep this a static site first. We could
>>> then
>>> >> >>> iterate on this and make it a dynamic thing. Of course, if we
>>> have the
>>> >> >>> resources in the community to quickly start with a dynamic site,
>>> I'm
>>> >> >>> not apposed.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> – Ufuk
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 2:31 PM Robert Metzger <
>>> [hidden email]>
>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> > Awesome! Thanks a lot for looking into this Becket! The VMs
>>> hosted by
>>> >> >>> Infra
>>> >> >>> > look suitable.
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> > @Shaoxuan: There is actually already a static page. It used to
>>> be
>>> >> >>> linked,
>>> >> >>> > but has been removed from the navigation bar for some reason.
>>> This is
>>> >> >>> the
>>> >> >>> > page: https://flink.apache.org/ecosystem.html
>>> >> >>> > We could update the page and add it back to the navigation bar
>>> for the
>>> >> >>> > coming weeks. What do you think?
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> > I would actually like to push for a dynamic page right away.
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> > I know it's kind of a bold move, but how do you feel about
>>> sending the
>>> >> >>> > owners of spark-packages.org a short note, if they are
>>> interested in
>>> >> >>> > sharing the source? We could maintain the code together in a
>>> public
>>> >> >>> repo.
>>> >> >>> > If they are not interested in sharing, or we decide not to ask
>>> in the
>>> >> >>> first
>>> >> >>> > place, I'm happy to write down a short description of the
>>> requirements,
>>> >> >>> > maybe some mockups. We could then see if we find somebody here
>>> in the
>>> >> >>> > community who's willing to implement it.
>>> >> >>> > Given the number of people who are eager to contribute, I
>>> believe we
>>> >> >>> will
>>> >> >>> > be able to find somebody pretty soon.
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 3:49 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]
>>> >
>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> > > Forgot to provide the link...
>>> >> >>> > >
>>> >> >>> > > [1] https://www.apache.org/dev/services.html#blogs (Apache
>>> infra
>>> >> >>> services)
>>> >> >>> > > [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/freebsd-jails (FreeBSD Jail
>>> provided
>>> >> >>> by
>>> >> >>> > > Apache Infra)
>>> >> >>> > >
>>> >> >>> > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:46 AM Becket Qin <
>>> [hidden email]>
>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>> >> >>> > >
>>> >> >>> > >> Hi Robert,
>>> >> >>> > >>
>>> >> >>> > >> Thanks for the feedback. These are good points. We should
>>> absolutely
>>> >> >>> > >> shoot for a dynamic website to support more interactions in
>>> the
>>> >> >>> community.
>>> >> >>> > >> There might be a few things to solve:
>>> >> >>> > >> 1. The website code itself. An open source solution would be
>>> great.
>>> >> >>> TBH,
>>> >> >>> > >> I do not have much experience on building a website. It'll
>>> be great
>>> >> >>> if
>>> >> >>> > >> someone could help comment on the solution here.
>>> >> >>> > >> 2. The hardware to host the website. Apache Infra provides a
>>> few
>>> >> >>> > >> services[1] that Apache projects can leverage. I did not see
>>> >> >>> database
>>> >> >>> > >> service, but maybe we can run a simple MySQL db in FreeBSD
>>> jail[2].
>>> >> >>> > >>
>>> >> >>> > >> @Bowen & vino, thanks for the positive feedback!
>>> >> >>> > >>
>>> >> >>> > >> @Shaoxuan Wang <[hidden email]>
>>> >> >>> > >> Thanks for the suggestion. That sounds reasonable to me. We
>>> >> >>> probably need
>>> >> >>> > >> a page in the Flink official site anyways, even just provide
>>> links
>>> >> >>> it to
>>> >> >>> > >> the ecosystem website. So listing the connectors in that
>>> static
>>> >> >>> page seems
>>> >> >>> > >> something we could start with while we are working on the
>>> dynamic
>>> >> >>> pages.
>>> >> >>> > >>
>>> >> >>> > >> Thanks,
>>> >> >>> > >>
>>> >> >>> > >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>> >> >>> > >>
>>> >> >>> > >> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:40 AM Shaoxuan Wang <
>>> [hidden email]>
>>> >> >>> > >> wrote:
>>> >> >>> > >>
>>> >> >>> > >>> Hi Becket and Robert,
>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>> >> >>> > >>> I like this idea!  Let us roll this out with Flink
>>> connectors at
>>> >> >>> the
>>> >> >>> > >>> first beginning. We can start with a static page, and
>>> upgrade it
>>> >> >>> when we
>>> >> >>> > >>> find a better solution for dynamic one with rich functions.
>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>> >> >>> > >>> Regards,
>>> >> >>> > >>> Shaoxuan
>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>> >> >>> > >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 1:36 AM Robert Metzger <
>>> [hidden email]
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> > >>> wrote:
>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>> >> >>> > >>>> Hey Becket,
>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>> >> >>> > >>>> This is a great idea!
>>> >> >>> > >>>> For this to be successful, we need to make sure the page
>>> is placed
>>> >> >>> > >>>> prominently so that the people submitting something will
>>> get
>>> >> >>> attention for
>>> >> >>> > >>>> their contributions.
>>> >> >>> > >>>> I think a dynamic site would probably be better, if we want
>>> >> >>> features
>>> >> >>> > >>>> such as up and downvoting or comments.
>>> >> >>> > >>>> I would also like this to be hosted on Apache infra, and
>>> endorsed
>>> >> >>> by
>>> >> >>> > >>>> the community.
>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>> >> >>> > >>>> Does anybody here know any existing software that we could
>>> use?
>>> >> >>> > >>>> The only think I was able to find is AUR:
>>> >> >>> https://aur.archlinux.org/
>>> >> >>> > >>>> (which is a community packages site for Arch Linux. The
>>> source
>>> >> >>> code of this
>>> >> >>> > >>>> portal is open source, but the layout and structure is not
>>> an
>>> >> >>> ideal fit for
>>> >> >>> > >>>> our requirements)
>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>> >> >>> > >>>> Best,
>>> >> >>> > >>>> Robert
>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>> >> >>> > >>>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 12:03 PM Becket Qin <
>>> [hidden email]>
>>> >> >>> > >>>> wrote:
>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Hi folks,
>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>> >> >>> > >>>>> I would like to start a discussion thread about creating
>>> a Flink
>>> >> >>> > >>>>> ecosystem website. The website aims to help contributors
>>> who
>>> >> >>> have developed
>>> >> >>> > >>>>> projects around Flink share their work with the community.
>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Please see the following doc for more details.
>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/12oCItoLbKrLGuwEUFcCfigezIR2hW3925j1hh3kGp4A/edit#
>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Thanks,
>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best regards / Met vriendelijke groeten,
>>>
>>> Niels Basjes
>>>
>>

[Becket Qin]

>
> I have a very capable and motivated frontend developer who would be
> willing to implement what I've mocked in my proposal.


That is awesome!

I created a Jira ticket[1] to Apache Infra and got the reply. It looks that
Apache infra team could provide a decent VM. The last piece is how to
ensure the data is persisted so we won't lose the project info / user
feedbacks when the VM is down. If Apache infra does not provide a
persistent storage for DB backup, we can always ask for multiple VMs and do
the fault tolerance by ourselves. It seems we can almost say the hardware
side is also ready.

Thanks,

Jiangjie (Becket) Qin

[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18010

On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 5:39 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Thank you for reaching out to Infra and the ember client.
> When I first saw the Ember repository, I thought it is the whole thing
> (frontend and backend), but while testing it, I realized it is "only" the
> frontend. I'm not sure if it makes sense to adjust the Ember observer
> client, or just write a simple UI from scratch.
> I have a very capable and motivated frontend developer who would be
> willing to implement what I've mocked in my proposal.
> In addition, I found somebody (Congxian Qiu) who seems to be eager to help
> with this project for the backend:
> https://github.com/rmetzger/flink-community-tools/issues/4
>
> For Infra: I made the same experience when asking for more GitHub
> permissions for "flinkbot": They didn't respond on their mailing list, only
> on Jira.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 2:45 PM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for writing up the specifications.
>>
>> Regarding the website source code, Austin found a website[1] whose
>> frontend code[2] is available publicly. It lacks some support (e.g login),
>> but it is still a good starting point. One thing is that I did not find a
>> License statement for that source code. I'll reach out to the author to see
>> if they have any concern over our usage.
>>
>> Apache Infra has not replied to my email regarding some details about the
>> VM. I'll open an infra Jira ticket tomorrow if there is still no response.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>
>> [1] https://emberobserver.com/
>> [2] https://github.com/emberobserver/client
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 1:35 AM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> @Bowen: I agree. Confluent Hub looks nicer, but it is on their company
>>> website. I guess the likelihood that they give out code from their company
>>> website is fairly low.
>>> @Nils: Beam's page is similar to our Ecosystem page, which we'll
>>> reactivate as part of this PR:
>>> https://github.com/apache/flink-web/pull/187
>>>
>>> Spark-packages.org did not respond to my request.
>>> I will propose a short specification in Becket's initial document.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 11:38 AM Niels Basjes <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> The Beam project has something in this area that is simply a page
>>>> within their documentation website:
>>>> https://beam.apache.org/documentation/sdks/java-thirdparty/
>>>>
>>>> Niels Basjes
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 11:39 PM Bowen Li <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Confluent hub for Kafka is another good example of this kind. I
>>>> personally like it over the spark site. May worth checking it out with
>>>> Kafka folks
>>>> >
>>>> > On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 6:06 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Absolutely! Thanks for the pointer. I'll submit a PR to update the
>>>> >> ecosystem page and the navigation.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Thanks,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 8:47 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> > Okay. I will reach out to spark-packages.org and see if they are
>>>> willing
>>>> >> > to share.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Do you want to raise a PR to update the ecosystem page (maybe sync
>>>> with
>>>> >> > the "Software Projects" listed here:
>>>> >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/Powered+by+Flink)
>>>> and
>>>> >> > link it in the navigation?
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Best,
>>>> >> > Robert
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 10:13 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >> Hi Robert,
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> I think it at least worths checking if spark-packages.org owners
>>>> are
>>>> >> >> willing to share. Thanks for volunteering to write the requirement
>>>> >> >> descriptions! In any case, that will be very helpful.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Since a static page has almost no cost, and we will need it to
>>>> redirect
>>>> >> >> to the dynamic site anyways, how about we first do that while
>>>> working on
>>>> >> >> the dynamic website?
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Thanks,
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 4:59 AM Ufuk Celebi <[hidden email]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>> I like Shaoxuan's idea to keep this a static site first. We
>>>> could then
>>>> >> >>> iterate on this and make it a dynamic thing. Of course, if we
>>>> have the
>>>> >> >>> resources in the community to quickly start with a dynamic site,
>>>> I'm
>>>> >> >>> not apposed.
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> – Ufuk
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 2:31 PM Robert Metzger <
>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>>> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >>> > Awesome! Thanks a lot for looking into this Becket! The VMs
>>>> hosted by
>>>> >> >>> Infra
>>>> >> >>> > look suitable.
>>>> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >>> > @Shaoxuan: There is actually already a static page. It used to
>>>> be
>>>> >> >>> linked,
>>>> >> >>> > but has been removed from the navigation bar for some reason.
>>>> This is
>>>> >> >>> the
>>>> >> >>> > page: https://flink.apache.org/ecosystem.html
>>>> >> >>> > We could update the page and add it back to the navigation bar
>>>> for the
>>>> >> >>> > coming weeks. What do you think?
>>>> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >>> > I would actually like to push for a dynamic page right away.
>>>> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >>> > I know it's kind of a bold move, but how do you feel about
>>>> sending the
>>>> >> >>> > owners of spark-packages.org a short note, if they are
>>>> interested in
>>>> >> >>> > sharing the source? We could maintain the code together in a
>>>> public
>>>> >> >>> repo.
>>>> >> >>> > If they are not interested in sharing, or we decide not to ask
>>>> in the
>>>> >> >>> first
>>>> >> >>> > place, I'm happy to write down a short description of the
>>>> requirements,
>>>> >> >>> > maybe some mockups. We could then see if we find somebody here
>>>> in the
>>>> >> >>> > community who's willing to implement it.
>>>> >> >>> > Given the number of people who are eager to contribute, I
>>>> believe we
>>>> >> >>> will
>>>> >> >>> > be able to find somebody pretty soon.
>>>> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >>> > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 3:49 AM Becket Qin <
>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>>> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >>> > > Forgot to provide the link...
>>>> >> >>> > >
>>>> >> >>> > > [1] https://www.apache.org/dev/services.html#blogs (Apache
>>>> infra
>>>> >> >>> services)
>>>> >> >>> > > [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/freebsd-jails (FreeBSD Jail
>>>> provided
>>>> >> >>> by
>>>> >> >>> > > Apache Infra)
>>>> >> >>> > >
>>>> >> >>> > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:46 AM Becket Qin <
>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>>> >> >>> > >
>>>> >> >>> > >> Hi Robert,
>>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>> >> >>> > >> Thanks for the feedback. These are good points. We should
>>>> absolutely
>>>> >> >>> > >> shoot for a dynamic website to support more interactions in
>>>> the
>>>> >> >>> community.
>>>> >> >>> > >> There might be a few things to solve:
>>>> >> >>> > >> 1. The website code itself. An open source solution would
>>>> be great.
>>>> >> >>> TBH,
>>>> >> >>> > >> I do not have much experience on building a website. It'll
>>>> be great
>>>> >> >>> if
>>>> >> >>> > >> someone could help comment on the solution here.
>>>> >> >>> > >> 2. The hardware to host the website. Apache Infra provides
>>>> a few
>>>> >> >>> > >> services[1] that Apache projects can leverage. I did not see
>>>> >> >>> database
>>>> >> >>> > >> service, but maybe we can run a simple MySQL db in FreeBSD
>>>> jail[2].
>>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>> >> >>> > >> @Bowen & vino, thanks for the positive feedback!
>>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>> >> >>> > >> @Shaoxuan Wang <[hidden email]>
>>>> >> >>> > >> Thanks for the suggestion. That sounds reasonable to me. We
>>>> >> >>> probably need
>>>> >> >>> > >> a page in the Flink official site anyways, even just
>>>> provide links
>>>> >> >>> it to
>>>> >> >>> > >> the ecosystem website. So listing the connectors in that
>>>> static
>>>> >> >>> page seems
>>>> >> >>> > >> something we could start with while we are working on the
>>>> dynamic
>>>> >> >>> pages.
>>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>> >> >>> > >> Thanks,
>>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>> >> >>> > >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>> >> >>> > >> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:40 AM Shaoxuan Wang <
>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>> >> >>> > >> wrote:
>>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>> >> >>> > >>> Hi Becket and Robert,
>>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>> I like this idea!  Let us roll this out with Flink
>>>> connectors at
>>>> >> >>> the
>>>> >> >>> > >>> first beginning. We can start with a static page, and
>>>> upgrade it
>>>> >> >>> when we
>>>> >> >>> > >>> find a better solution for dynamic one with rich functions.
>>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>> Regards,
>>>> >> >>> > >>> Shaoxuan
>>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 1:36 AM Robert Metzger <
>>>> [hidden email]
>>>> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >>> > >>> wrote:
>>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> Hey Becket,
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> This is a great idea!
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> For this to be successful, we need to make sure the page
>>>> is placed
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> prominently so that the people submitting something will
>>>> get
>>>> >> >>> attention for
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> their contributions.
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> I think a dynamic site would probably be better, if we
>>>> want
>>>> >> >>> features
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> such as up and downvoting or comments.
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> I would also like this to be hosted on Apache infra, and
>>>> endorsed
>>>> >> >>> by
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> the community.
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> Does anybody here know any existing software that we
>>>> could use?
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> The only think I was able to find is AUR:
>>>> >> >>> https://aur.archlinux.org/
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> (which is a community packages site for Arch Linux. The
>>>> source
>>>> >> >>> code of this
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> portal is open source, but the layout and structure is
>>>> not an
>>>> >> >>> ideal fit for
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> our requirements)
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> Best,
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> Robert
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 12:03 PM Becket Qin <
>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> wrote:
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Hi folks,
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> I would like to start a discussion thread about creating
>>>> a Flink
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> ecosystem website. The website aims to help contributors
>>>> who
>>>> >> >>> have developed
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> projects around Flink share their work with the
>>>> community.
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Please see the following doc for more details.
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/12oCItoLbKrLGuwEUFcCfigezIR2hW3925j1hh3kGp4A/edit#
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Thanks,
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best regards / Met vriendelijke groeten,
>>>>
>>>> Niels Basjes
>>>>
>>>

[Robert Metzger]

Nice, really good news on the INFRA front!
I think the hardware specs sound reasonable. And a periodic backup of the
website's database to Infra's backup solution sounds reasonable too.

Can you accept and review my proposal for the website?


On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 3:47 PM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:

> >
> > I have a very capable and motivated frontend developer who would be
> > willing to implement what I've mocked in my proposal.
>
>
> That is awesome!
>
> I created a Jira ticket[1] to Apache Infra and got the reply. It looks that
> Apache infra team could provide a decent VM. The last piece is how to
> ensure the data is persisted so we won't lose the project info / user
> feedbacks when the VM is down. If Apache infra does not provide a
> persistent storage for DB backup, we can always ask for multiple VMs and do
> the fault tolerance by ourselves. It seems we can almost say the hardware
> side is also ready.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18010
>
> On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 5:39 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> > Thank you for reaching out to Infra and the ember client.
> > When I first saw the Ember repository, I thought it is the whole thing
> > (frontend and backend), but while testing it, I realized it is "only" the
> > frontend. I'm not sure if it makes sense to adjust the Ember observer
> > client, or just write a simple UI from scratch.
> > I have a very capable and motivated frontend developer who would be
> > willing to implement what I've mocked in my proposal.
> > In addition, I found somebody (Congxian Qiu) who seems to be eager to
> help
> > with this project for the backend:
> > https://github.com/rmetzger/flink-community-tools/issues/4
> >
> > For Infra: I made the same experience when asking for more GitHub
> > permissions for "flinkbot": They didn't respond on their mailing list,
> only
> > on Jira.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 2:45 PM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks for writing up the specifications.
> >>
> >> Regarding the website source code, Austin found a website[1] whose
> >> frontend code[2] is available publicly. It lacks some support (e.g
> login),
> >> but it is still a good starting point. One thing is that I did not find
> a
> >> License statement for that source code. I'll reach out to the author to
> see
> >> if they have any concern over our usage.
> >>
> >> Apache Infra has not replied to my email regarding some details about
> the
> >> VM. I'll open an infra Jira ticket tomorrow if there is still no
> response.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
> >>
> >> [1] https://emberobserver.com/
> >> [2] https://github.com/emberobserver/client
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 1:35 AM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> @Bowen: I agree. Confluent Hub looks nicer, but it is on their company
> >>> website. I guess the likelihood that they give out code from their
> company
> >>> website is fairly low.
> >>> @Nils: Beam's page is similar to our Ecosystem page, which we'll
> >>> reactivate as part of this PR:
> >>> https://github.com/apache/flink-web/pull/187
> >>>
> >>> Spark-packages.org did not respond to my request.
> >>> I will propose a short specification in Becket's initial document.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 11:38 AM Niels Basjes <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> The Beam project has something in this area that is simply a page
> >>>> within their documentation website:
> >>>> https://beam.apache.org/documentation/sdks/java-thirdparty/
> >>>>
> >>>> Niels Basjes
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 11:39 PM Bowen Li <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Confluent hub for Kafka is another good example of this kind. I
> >>>> personally like it over the spark site. May worth checking it out with
> >>>> Kafka folks
> >>>> >
> >>>> > On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 6:06 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Absolutely! Thanks for the pointer. I'll submit a PR to update the
> >>>> >> ecosystem page and the navigation.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Thanks,
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 8:47 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]
> >
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> > Okay. I will reach out to spark-packages.org and see if they are
> >>>> willing
> >>>> >> > to share.
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> > Do you want to raise a PR to update the ecosystem page (maybe
> sync
> >>>> with
> >>>> >> > the "Software Projects" listed here:
> >>>> >> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/Powered+by+Flink)
> >>>> and
> >>>> >> > link it in the navigation?
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> > Best,
> >>>> >> > Robert
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> > On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 10:13 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]
> >
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> >> Hi Robert,
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> I think it at least worths checking if spark-packages.org
> owners
> >>>> are
> >>>> >> >> willing to share. Thanks for volunteering to write the
> requirement
> >>>> >> >> descriptions! In any case, that will be very helpful.
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> Since a static page has almost no cost, and we will need it to
> >>>> redirect
> >>>> >> >> to the dynamic site anyways, how about we first do that while
> >>>> working on
> >>>> >> >> the dynamic website?
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> Thanks,
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 4:59 AM Ufuk Celebi <[hidden email]>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >>> I like Shaoxuan's idea to keep this a static site first. We
> >>>> could then
> >>>> >> >>> iterate on this and make it a dynamic thing. Of course, if we
> >>>> have the
> >>>> >> >>> resources in the community to quickly start with a dynamic
> site,
> >>>> I'm
> >>>> >> >>> not apposed.
> >>>> >> >>>
> >>>> >> >>> – Ufuk
> >>>> >> >>>
> >>>> >> >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 2:31 PM Robert Metzger <
> >>>> [hidden email]>
> >>>> >> >>> wrote:
> >>>> >> >>> >
> >>>> >> >>> > Awesome! Thanks a lot for looking into this Becket! The VMs
> >>>> hosted by
> >>>> >> >>> Infra
> >>>> >> >>> > look suitable.
> >>>> >> >>> >
> >>>> >> >>> > @Shaoxuan: There is actually already a static page. It used
> to
> >>>> be
> >>>> >> >>> linked,
> >>>> >> >>> > but has been removed from the navigation bar for some reason.
> >>>> This is
> >>>> >> >>> the
> >>>> >> >>> > page: https://flink.apache.org/ecosystem.html
> >>>> >> >>> > We could update the page and add it back to the navigation
> bar
> >>>> for the
> >>>> >> >>> > coming weeks. What do you think?
> >>>> >> >>> >
> >>>> >> >>> > I would actually like to push for a dynamic page right away.
> >>>> >> >>> >
> >>>> >> >>> > I know it's kind of a bold move, but how do you feel about
> >>>> sending the
> >>>> >> >>> > owners of spark-packages.org a short note, if they are
> >>>> interested in
> >>>> >> >>> > sharing the source? We could maintain the code together in a
> >>>> public
> >>>> >> >>> repo.
> >>>> >> >>> > If they are not interested in sharing, or we decide not to
> ask
> >>>> in the
> >>>> >> >>> first
> >>>> >> >>> > place, I'm happy to write down a short description of the
> >>>> requirements,
> >>>> >> >>> > maybe some mockups. We could then see if we find somebody
> here
> >>>> in the
> >>>> >> >>> > community who's willing to implement it.
> >>>> >> >>> > Given the number of people who are eager to contribute, I
> >>>> believe we
> >>>> >> >>> will
> >>>> >> >>> > be able to find somebody pretty soon.
> >>>> >> >>> >
> >>>> >> >>> >
> >>>> >> >>> > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 3:49 AM Becket Qin <
> >>>> [hidden email]>
> >>>> >> >>> wrote:
> >>>> >> >>> >
> >>>> >> >>> > > Forgot to provide the link...
> >>>> >> >>> > >
> >>>> >> >>> > > [1] https://www.apache.org/dev/services.html#blogs (Apache
> >>>> infra
> >>>> >> >>> services)
> >>>> >> >>> > > [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/freebsd-jails (FreeBSD Jail
> >>>> provided
> >>>> >> >>> by
> >>>> >> >>> > > Apache Infra)
> >>>> >> >>> > >
> >>>> >> >>> > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:46 AM Becket Qin <
> >>>> [hidden email]>
> >>>> >> >>> wrote:
> >>>> >> >>> > >
> >>>> >> >>> > >> Hi Robert,
> >>>> >> >>> > >>
> >>>> >> >>> > >> Thanks for the feedback. These are good points. We should
> >>>> absolutely
> >>>> >> >>> > >> shoot for a dynamic website to support more interactions
> in
> >>>> the
> >>>> >> >>> community.
> >>>> >> >>> > >> There might be a few things to solve:
> >>>> >> >>> > >> 1. The website code itself. An open source solution would
> >>>> be great.
> >>>> >> >>> TBH,
> >>>> >> >>> > >> I do not have much experience on building a website. It'll
> >>>> be great
> >>>> >> >>> if
> >>>> >> >>> > >> someone could help comment on the solution here.
> >>>> >> >>> > >> 2. The hardware to host the website. Apache Infra provides
> >>>> a few
> >>>> >> >>> > >> services[1] that Apache projects can leverage. I did not
> see
> >>>> >> >>> database
> >>>> >> >>> > >> service, but maybe we can run a simple MySQL db in FreeBSD
> >>>> jail[2].
> >>>> >> >>> > >>
> >>>> >> >>> > >> @Bowen & vino, thanks for the positive feedback!
> >>>> >> >>> > >>
> >>>> >> >>> > >> @Shaoxuan Wang <[hidden email]>
> >>>> >> >>> > >> Thanks for the suggestion. That sounds reasonable to me.
> We
> >>>> >> >>> probably need
> >>>> >> >>> > >> a page in the Flink official site anyways, even just
> >>>> provide links
> >>>> >> >>> it to
> >>>> >> >>> > >> the ecosystem website. So listing the connectors in that
> >>>> static
> >>>> >> >>> page seems
> >>>> >> >>> > >> something we could start with while we are working on the
> >>>> dynamic
> >>>> >> >>> pages.
> >>>> >> >>> > >>
> >>>> >> >>> > >> Thanks,
> >>>> >> >>> > >>
> >>>> >> >>> > >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
> >>>> >> >>> > >>
> >>>> >> >>> > >> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:40 AM Shaoxuan Wang <
> >>>> [hidden email]>
> >>>> >> >>> > >> wrote:
> >>>> >> >>> > >>
> >>>> >> >>> > >>> Hi Becket and Robert,
> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
> >>>> >> >>> > >>> I like this idea!  Let us roll this out with Flink
> >>>> connectors at
> >>>> >> >>> the
> >>>> >> >>> > >>> first beginning. We can start with a static page, and
> >>>> upgrade it
> >>>> >> >>> when we
> >>>> >> >>> > >>> find a better solution for dynamic one with rich
> functions.
> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
> >>>> >> >>> > >>> Regards,
> >>>> >> >>> > >>> Shaoxuan
> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
> >>>> >> >>> > >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 1:36 AM Robert Metzger <
> >>>> [hidden email]
> >>>> >> >>> >
> >>>> >> >>> > >>> wrote:
> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> Hey Becket,
> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> This is a great idea!
> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> For this to be successful, we need to make sure the page
> >>>> is placed
> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> prominently so that the people submitting something will
> >>>> get
> >>>> >> >>> attention for
> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> their contributions.
> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> I think a dynamic site would probably be better, if we
> >>>> want
> >>>> >> >>> features
> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> such as up and downvoting or comments.
> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> I would also like this to be hosted on Apache infra, and
> >>>> endorsed
> >>>> >> >>> by
> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> the community.
> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> Does anybody here know any existing software that we
> >>>> could use?
> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> The only think I was able to find is AUR:
> >>>> >> >>> https://aur.archlinux.org/
> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> (which is a community packages site for Arch Linux. The
> >>>> source
> >>>> >> >>> code of this
> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> portal is open source, but the layout and structure is
> >>>> not an
> >>>> >> >>> ideal fit for
> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> our requirements)
> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> Best,
> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> Robert
> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 12:03 PM Becket Qin <
> >>>> [hidden email]>
> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> wrote:
> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Hi folks,
> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> I would like to start a discussion thread about
> creating
> >>>> a Flink
> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> ecosystem website. The website aims to help
> contributors
> >>>> who
> >>>> >> >>> have developed
> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> projects around Flink share their work with the
> >>>> community.
> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Please see the following doc for more details.
> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
> >>>> >> >>>
> >>>>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/12oCItoLbKrLGuwEUFcCfigezIR2hW3925j1hh3kGp4A/edit#
> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
> >>>> >> >>>
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Best regards / Met vriendelijke groeten,
> >>>>
> >>>> Niels Basjes
> >>>>
> >>>
>

[Becket Qin]

Done. The writeup looks great!

On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 9:09 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Nice, really good news on the INFRA front!
> I think the hardware specs sound reasonable. And a periodic backup of the
> website's database to Infra's backup solution sounds reasonable too.
>
> Can you accept and review my proposal for the website?
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 3:47 PM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> >
>> > I have a very capable and motivated frontend developer who would be
>> > willing to implement what I've mocked in my proposal.
>>
>>
>> That is awesome!
>>
>> I created a Jira ticket[1] to Apache Infra and got the reply. It looks
>> that
>> Apache infra team could provide a decent VM. The last piece is how to
>> ensure the data is persisted so we won't lose the project info / user
>> feedbacks when the VM is down. If Apache infra does not provide a
>> persistent storage for DB backup, we can always ask for multiple VMs and
>> do
>> the fault tolerance by ourselves. It seems we can almost say the hardware
>> side is also ready.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>
>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18010
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 5:39 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Thank you for reaching out to Infra and the ember client.
>> > When I first saw the Ember repository, I thought it is the whole thing
>> > (frontend and backend), but while testing it, I realized it is "only"
>> the
>> > frontend. I'm not sure if it makes sense to adjust the Ember observer
>> > client, or just write a simple UI from scratch.
>> > I have a very capable and motivated frontend developer who would be
>> > willing to implement what I've mocked in my proposal.
>> > In addition, I found somebody (Congxian Qiu) who seems to be eager to
>> help
>> > with this project for the backend:
>> > https://github.com/rmetzger/flink-community-tools/issues/4
>> >
>> > For Infra: I made the same experience when asking for more GitHub
>> > permissions for "flinkbot": They didn't respond on their mailing list,
>> only
>> > on Jira.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 2:45 PM Becket Qin <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Thanks for writing up the specifications.
>> >>
>> >> Regarding the website source code, Austin found a website[1] whose
>> >> frontend code[2] is available publicly. It lacks some support (e.g
>> login),
>> >> but it is still a good starting point. One thing is that I did not
>> find a
>> >> License statement for that source code. I'll reach out to the author
>> to see
>> >> if they have any concern over our usage.
>> >>
>> >> Apache Infra has not replied to my email regarding some details about
>> the
>> >> VM. I'll open an infra Jira ticket tomorrow if there is still no
>> response.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >>
>> >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>> >>
>> >> [1] https://emberobserver.com/
>> >> [2] https://github.com/emberobserver/client
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 1:35 AM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> @Bowen: I agree. Confluent Hub looks nicer, but it is on their company
>> >>> website. I guess the likelihood that they give out code from their
>> company
>> >>> website is fairly low.
>> >>> @Nils: Beam's page is similar to our Ecosystem page, which we'll
>> >>> reactivate as part of this PR:
>> >>> https://github.com/apache/flink-web/pull/187
>> >>>
>> >>> Spark-packages.org did not respond to my request.
>> >>> I will propose a short specification in Becket's initial document.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 11:38 AM Niels Basjes <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Hi,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The Beam project has something in this area that is simply a page
>> >>>> within their documentation website:
>> >>>> https://beam.apache.org/documentation/sdks/java-thirdparty/
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Niels Basjes
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 11:39 PM Bowen Li <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Confluent hub for Kafka is another good example of this kind. I
>> >>>> personally like it over the spark site. May worth checking it out
>> with
>> >>>> Kafka folks
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 6:06 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> Absolutely! Thanks for the pointer. I'll submit a PR to update the
>> >>>> >> ecosystem page and the navigation.
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> Thanks,
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 8:47 PM Robert Metzger <
>> [hidden email]>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> > Okay. I will reach out to spark-packages.org and see if they
>> are
>> >>>> willing
>> >>>> >> > to share.
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> > Do you want to raise a PR to update the ecosystem page (maybe
>> sync
>> >>>> with
>> >>>> >> > the "Software Projects" listed here:
>> >>>> >> >
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/Powered+by+Flink)
>> >>>> and
>> >>>> >> > link it in the navigation?
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> > Best,
>> >>>> >> > Robert
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> > On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 10:13 AM Becket Qin <
>> [hidden email]>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> >> Hi Robert,
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> I think it at least worths checking if spark-packages.org
>> owners
>> >>>> are
>> >>>> >> >> willing to share. Thanks for volunteering to write the
>> requirement
>> >>>> >> >> descriptions! In any case, that will be very helpful.
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> Since a static page has almost no cost, and we will need it to
>> >>>> redirect
>> >>>> >> >> to the dynamic site anyways, how about we first do that while
>> >>>> working on
>> >>>> >> >> the dynamic website?
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> Thanks,
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 4:59 AM Ufuk Celebi <[hidden email]>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >>> I like Shaoxuan's idea to keep this a static site first. We
>> >>>> could then
>> >>>> >> >>> iterate on this and make it a dynamic thing. Of course, if we
>> >>>> have the
>> >>>> >> >>> resources in the community to quickly start with a dynamic
>> site,
>> >>>> I'm
>> >>>> >> >>> not apposed.
>> >>>> >> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>> – Ufuk
>> >>>> >> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 2:31 PM Robert Metzger <
>> >>>> [hidden email]>
>> >>>> >> >>> wrote:
>> >>>> >> >>> >
>> >>>> >> >>> > Awesome! Thanks a lot for looking into this Becket! The VMs
>> >>>> hosted by
>> >>>> >> >>> Infra
>> >>>> >> >>> > look suitable.
>> >>>> >> >>> >
>> >>>> >> >>> > @Shaoxuan: There is actually already a static page. It used
>> to
>> >>>> be
>> >>>> >> >>> linked,
>> >>>> >> >>> > but has been removed from the navigation bar for some
>> reason.
>> >>>> This is
>> >>>> >> >>> the
>> >>>> >> >>> > page: https://flink.apache.org/ecosystem.html
>> >>>> >> >>> > We could update the page and add it back to the navigation
>> bar
>> >>>> for the
>> >>>> >> >>> > coming weeks. What do you think?
>> >>>> >> >>> >
>> >>>> >> >>> > I would actually like to push for a dynamic page right away.
>> >>>> >> >>> >
>> >>>> >> >>> > I know it's kind of a bold move, but how do you feel about
>> >>>> sending the
>> >>>> >> >>> > owners of spark-packages.org a short note, if they are
>> >>>> interested in
>> >>>> >> >>> > sharing the source? We could maintain the code together in a
>> >>>> public
>> >>>> >> >>> repo.
>> >>>> >> >>> > If they are not interested in sharing, or we decide not to
>> ask
>> >>>> in the
>> >>>> >> >>> first
>> >>>> >> >>> > place, I'm happy to write down a short description of the
>> >>>> requirements,
>> >>>> >> >>> > maybe some mockups. We could then see if we find somebody
>> here
>> >>>> in the
>> >>>> >> >>> > community who's willing to implement it.
>> >>>> >> >>> > Given the number of people who are eager to contribute, I
>> >>>> believe we
>> >>>> >> >>> will
>> >>>> >> >>> > be able to find somebody pretty soon.
>> >>>> >> >>> >
>> >>>> >> >>> >
>> >>>> >> >>> > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 3:49 AM Becket Qin <
>> >>>> [hidden email]>
>> >>>> >> >>> wrote:
>> >>>> >> >>> >
>> >>>> >> >>> > > Forgot to provide the link...
>> >>>> >> >>> > >
>> >>>> >> >>> > > [1] https://www.apache.org/dev/services.html#blogs
>> (Apache
>> >>>> infra
>> >>>> >> >>> services)
>> >>>> >> >>> > > [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/freebsd-jails (FreeBSD
>> Jail
>> >>>> provided
>> >>>> >> >>> by
>> >>>> >> >>> > > Apache Infra)
>> >>>> >> >>> > >
>> >>>> >> >>> > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:46 AM Becket Qin <
>> >>>> [hidden email]>
>> >>>> >> >>> wrote:
>> >>>> >> >>> > >
>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Hi Robert,
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Thanks for the feedback. These are good points. We should
>> >>>> absolutely
>> >>>> >> >>> > >> shoot for a dynamic website to support more interactions
>> in
>> >>>> the
>> >>>> >> >>> community.
>> >>>> >> >>> > >> There might be a few things to solve:
>> >>>> >> >>> > >> 1. The website code itself. An open source solution would
>> >>>> be great.
>> >>>> >> >>> TBH,
>> >>>> >> >>> > >> I do not have much experience on building a website.
>> It'll
>> >>>> be great
>> >>>> >> >>> if
>> >>>> >> >>> > >> someone could help comment on the solution here.
>> >>>> >> >>> > >> 2. The hardware to host the website. Apache Infra
>> provides
>> >>>> a few
>> >>>> >> >>> > >> services[1] that Apache projects can leverage. I did not
>> see
>> >>>> >> >>> database
>> >>>> >> >>> > >> service, but maybe we can run a simple MySQL db in
>> FreeBSD
>> >>>> jail[2].
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>> >>>> >> >>> > >> @Bowen & vino, thanks for the positive feedback!
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>> >>>> >> >>> > >> @Shaoxuan Wang <[hidden email]>
>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Thanks for the suggestion. That sounds reasonable to me.
>> We
>> >>>> >> >>> probably need
>> >>>> >> >>> > >> a page in the Flink official site anyways, even just
>> >>>> provide links
>> >>>> >> >>> it to
>> >>>> >> >>> > >> the ecosystem website. So listing the connectors in that
>> >>>> static
>> >>>> >> >>> page seems
>> >>>> >> >>> > >> something we could start with while we are working on the
>> >>>> dynamic
>> >>>> >> >>> pages.
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Thanks,
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>> >>>> >> >>> > >> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:40 AM Shaoxuan Wang <
>> >>>> [hidden email]>
>> >>>> >> >>> > >> wrote:
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> Hi Becket and Robert,
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> I like this idea!  Let us roll this out with Flink
>> >>>> connectors at
>> >>>> >> >>> the
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> first beginning. We can start with a static page, and
>> >>>> upgrade it
>> >>>> >> >>> when we
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> find a better solution for dynamic one with rich
>> functions.
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> Regards,
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> Shaoxuan
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 1:36 AM Robert Metzger <
>> >>>> [hidden email]
>> >>>> >> >>> >
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> wrote:
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> Hey Becket,
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> This is a great idea!
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> For this to be successful, we need to make sure the
>> page
>> >>>> is placed
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> prominently so that the people submitting something
>> will
>> >>>> get
>> >>>> >> >>> attention for
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> their contributions.
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> I think a dynamic site would probably be better, if we
>> >>>> want
>> >>>> >> >>> features
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> such as up and downvoting or comments.
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> I would also like this to be hosted on Apache infra,
>> and
>> >>>> endorsed
>> >>>> >> >>> by
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> the community.
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> Does anybody here know any existing software that we
>> >>>> could use?
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> The only think I was able to find is AUR:
>> >>>> >> >>> https://aur.archlinux.org/
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> (which is a community packages site for Arch Linux. The
>> >>>> source
>> >>>> >> >>> code of this
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> portal is open source, but the layout and structure is
>> >>>> not an
>> >>>> >> >>> ideal fit for
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> our requirements)
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> Best,
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> Robert
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 12:03 PM Becket Qin <
>> >>>> [hidden email]>
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> wrote:
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Hi folks,
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> I would like to start a discussion thread about
>> creating
>> >>>> a Flink
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> ecosystem website. The website aims to help
>> contributors
>> >>>> who
>> >>>> >> >>> have developed
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> projects around Flink share their work with the
>> >>>> community.
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Please see the following doc for more details.
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>> >>>> >> >>>
>> >>>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/12oCItoLbKrLGuwEUFcCfigezIR2hW3925j1hh3kGp4A/edit#
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Thanks,
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>> >>>> >> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> Best regards / Met vriendelijke groeten,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Niels Basjes
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>>
>