Hi, devs,
Recently, in the PR of FLINK-19179[1], we have a discussion about how to implement singleton pattern in Flink. Currently, most of the utility classes implement singleton pattern through the private constructor. Seldom utility classes leverage the enum mechanism. From my perspective, leveraging enum mechanism is more simple and it can also overcome reflection. Whether using enum classes or private constructors, it will be good to align the approach to achieve singleton in the whole Flink project. I would propose to leverage the enum mechanism in the Flink to implement singleton pattern and append it to the code-style guidelines. We may also have a JIRA ticket to refactor the existing code. What do you think? [1] https://github.com/apache/flink/pull/13416 Best, Yangze Guo |
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I don't mind one way or the other. I guess enum way is somehow safer, however did we really have any issues with our current approach with `private` constructors? I mean, you are mentioning that using reflections could overcome private constructors, but is that a real concern in our code base? Has this caused some concrete issues? If I would be reviewing a code doing things like this (or generally speaking using reflections in the first place for anything), one should better have a really good excuse :) So all in all, I would be +1 for allowing `Enum`, -0.1 for banning `private` constructors approach, but I also wouldn't mind sticking with `private` constructors for the sake of consistency if the majority of the community has strong feelings against using enums. Piotrek pt., 25 wrz 2020 o 10:22 Yangze Guo <[hidden email]> napisał(a): > Hi, devs, > > Recently, in the PR of FLINK-19179[1], we have a discussion about how > to implement singleton pattern in Flink. > > Currently, most of the utility classes implement singleton pattern > through the private constructor. Seldom utility classes leverage the > enum mechanism. From my perspective, leveraging enum mechanism is more > simple and it can also overcome reflection. > > Whether using enum classes or private constructors, it will be good to > align the approach to achieve singleton in the whole Flink project. > > I would propose to leverage the enum mechanism in the Flink to > implement singleton pattern and append it to the code-style > guidelines. We may also have a JIRA ticket to refactor the existing > code. > > What do you think? > > [1] https://github.com/apache/flink/pull/13416 > > Best, > Yangze Guo > |
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honstely, I find using enums is more of a hack. `enum` stands for enumeration and is meant for listing flags or options. Using it for singleton patterns is just abusing a concept due to certain implementation details and less code. I feel this topic is like using Lombok for generating hashCode/equals. It means less coding but introduces another dependency and abuses the annotation processor. I would rather use the Java language according to the author's intention. Regards, Timo On 25.09.20 11:22, Piotr Nowojski wrote: > Hi, > > I don't mind one way or the other. > > I guess enum way is somehow safer, however did we really have any issues > with our current approach with `private` constructors? I mean, you are > mentioning that using reflections could overcome private constructors, but > is that a real concern in our code base? Has this caused some concrete > issues? If I would be reviewing a code doing things like this (or generally > speaking using reflections in the first place for anything), one should > better have a really good excuse :) > > So all in all, I would be +1 for allowing `Enum`, -0.1 for banning > `private` constructors approach, but I also wouldn't mind sticking with > `private` constructors for the sake of consistency if the majority of the > community has strong feelings against using enums. > > Piotrek > > pt., 25 wrz 2020 o 10:22 Yangze Guo <[hidden email]> napisał(a): > >> Hi, devs, >> >> Recently, in the PR of FLINK-19179[1], we have a discussion about how >> to implement singleton pattern in Flink. >> >> Currently, most of the utility classes implement singleton pattern >> through the private constructor. Seldom utility classes leverage the >> enum mechanism. From my perspective, leveraging enum mechanism is more >> simple and it can also overcome reflection. >> >> Whether using enum classes or private constructors, it will be good to >> align the approach to achieve singleton in the whole Flink project. >> >> I would propose to leverage the enum mechanism in the Flink to >> implement singleton pattern and append it to the code-style >> guidelines. We may also have a JIRA ticket to refactor the existing >> code. >> >> What do you think? >> >> [1] https://github.com/apache/flink/pull/13416 >> >> Best, >> Yangze Guo >> > |
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One small remark here: you should not call this a Singleton. For most people, a Singleton would refer to the implementation of the GoF Singleton pattern, where you have a single instance of the class (see for instance the corresponding Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singleton_pattern#Java_Implementation_[7]). Your discussion is about a non-instantiable class (containing only static methods). As for the choice between the two, the private constructor pattern seems much more intuitive to me. If using enum, I think you need to impose some documenting comment to explain the dangling semicolon (it's very weird to coders unfamiliar with the pattern). Gaël Renoux On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 11:38 AM Timo Walther <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi, > > honstely, I find using enums is more of a hack. `enum` stands for > enumeration and is meant for listing flags or options. Using it for > singleton patterns is just abusing a concept due to certain > implementation details and less code. > > I feel this topic is like using Lombok for generating hashCode/equals. > It means less coding but introduces another dependency and abuses the > annotation processor. I would rather use the Java language according to > the author's intention. > > Regards, > Timo > > On 25.09.20 11:22, Piotr Nowojski wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I don't mind one way or the other. > > > > I guess enum way is somehow safer, however did we really have any issues > > with our current approach with `private` constructors? I mean, you are > > mentioning that using reflections could overcome private constructors, > but > > is that a real concern in our code base? Has this caused some concrete > > issues? If I would be reviewing a code doing things like this (or > generally > > speaking using reflections in the first place for anything), one should > > better have a really good excuse :) > > > > So all in all, I would be +1 for allowing `Enum`, -0.1 for banning > > `private` constructors approach, but I also wouldn't mind sticking with > > `private` constructors for the sake of consistency if the majority of the > > community has strong feelings against using enums. > > > > Piotrek > > > > pt., 25 wrz 2020 o 10:22 Yangze Guo <[hidden email]> napisał(a): > > > >> Hi, devs, > >> > >> Recently, in the PR of FLINK-19179[1], we have a discussion about how > >> to implement singleton pattern in Flink. > >> > >> Currently, most of the utility classes implement singleton pattern > >> through the private constructor. Seldom utility classes leverage the > >> enum mechanism. From my perspective, leveraging enum mechanism is more > >> simple and it can also overcome reflection. > >> > >> Whether using enum classes or private constructors, it will be good to > >> align the approach to achieve singleton in the whole Flink project. > >> > >> I would propose to leverage the enum mechanism in the Flink to > >> implement singleton pattern and append it to the code-style > >> guidelines. We may also have a JIRA ticket to refactor the existing > >> code. > >> > >> What do you think? > >> > >> [1] https://github.com/apache/flink/pull/13416 > >> > >> Best, > >> Yangze Guo > >> > > > > |
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First of all I very much agree with Gael. The discussion is not about a Singleton pattern. Secondly, similarly as @Timo and @Gael I find the pattern very confusing. Each time I see it I have a hard time figuring out why there are no enumerations in the enum. This is my preference though. Best, Dawid On 25/09/2020 11:42, Gaël Renoux wrote: > Hi > > One small remark here: you should not call this a Singleton. For most > people, a Singleton would refer to the implementation of the GoF Singleton > pattern, where you have a single instance of the class (see for instance > the corresponding Wikipedia page: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singleton_pattern#Java_Implementation_[7]). > Your discussion is about a non-instantiable class (containing only static > methods). > > As for the choice between the two, the private constructor pattern seems > much more intuitive to me. If using enum, I think you need to impose some > documenting comment to explain the dangling semicolon (it's very weird to > coders unfamiliar with the pattern). > > Gaël Renoux > > On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 11:38 AM Timo Walther <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> honstely, I find using enums is more of a hack. `enum` stands for >> enumeration and is meant for listing flags or options. Using it for >> singleton patterns is just abusing a concept due to certain >> implementation details and less code. >> >> I feel this topic is like using Lombok for generating hashCode/equals. >> It means less coding but introduces another dependency and abuses the >> annotation processor. I would rather use the Java language according to >> the author's intention. >> >> Regards, >> Timo >> >> On 25.09.20 11:22, Piotr Nowojski wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I don't mind one way or the other. >>> >>> I guess enum way is somehow safer, however did we really have any issues >>> with our current approach with `private` constructors? I mean, you are >>> mentioning that using reflections could overcome private constructors, >> but >>> is that a real concern in our code base? Has this caused some concrete >>> issues? If I would be reviewing a code doing things like this (or >> generally >>> speaking using reflections in the first place for anything), one should >>> better have a really good excuse :) >>> >>> So all in all, I would be +1 for allowing `Enum`, -0.1 for banning >>> `private` constructors approach, but I also wouldn't mind sticking with >>> `private` constructors for the sake of consistency if the majority of the >>> community has strong feelings against using enums. >>> >>> Piotrek >>> >>> pt., 25 wrz 2020 o 10:22 Yangze Guo <[hidden email]> napisał(a): >>> >>>> Hi, devs, >>>> >>>> Recently, in the PR of FLINK-19179[1], we have a discussion about how >>>> to implement singleton pattern in Flink. >>>> >>>> Currently, most of the utility classes implement singleton pattern >>>> through the private constructor. Seldom utility classes leverage the >>>> enum mechanism. From my perspective, leveraging enum mechanism is more >>>> simple and it can also overcome reflection. >>>> >>>> Whether using enum classes or private constructors, it will be good to >>>> align the approach to achieve singleton in the whole Flink project. >>>> >>>> I would propose to leverage the enum mechanism in the Flink to >>>> implement singleton pattern and append it to the code-style >>>> guidelines. We may also have a JIRA ticket to refactor the existing >>>> code. >>>> >>>> What do you think? >>>> >>>> [1] https://github.com/apache/flink/pull/13416 >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Yangze Guo >>>> >> signature.asc (849 bytes) Download Attachment |
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Hi, thanks for starting this discussion.
I am +1 for using the private constructor for util class. We don't need to change it. I think few libraries use the enum, such as guava, common-utils, or even JDK, the private constructor is widely used. I don't quite understand why a util class is an enum. Enum seems to be conceptually different from general classes. It's just a util class, and I don't want to enumerate it. And I think what Timo said makes sense to me. Best, Jingsong On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 5:38 PM Timo Walther <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi, > > honstely, I find using enums is more of a hack. `enum` stands for > enumeration and is meant for listing flags or options. Using it for > singleton patterns is just abusing a concept due to certain > implementation details and less code. > > I feel this topic is like using Lombok for generating hashCode/equals. > It means less coding but introduces another dependency and abuses the > annotation processor. I would rather use the Java language according to > the author's intention. > > Regards, > Timo > > On 25.09.20 11:22, Piotr Nowojski wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I don't mind one way or the other. > > > > I guess enum way is somehow safer, however did we really have any issues > > with our current approach with `private` constructors? I mean, you are > > mentioning that using reflections could overcome private constructors, > but > > is that a real concern in our code base? Has this caused some concrete > > issues? If I would be reviewing a code doing things like this (or > generally > > speaking using reflections in the first place for anything), one should > > better have a really good excuse :) > > > > So all in all, I would be +1 for allowing `Enum`, -0.1 for banning > > `private` constructors approach, but I also wouldn't mind sticking with > > `private` constructors for the sake of consistency if the majority of the > > community has strong feelings against using enums. > > > > Piotrek > > > > pt., 25 wrz 2020 o 10:22 Yangze Guo <[hidden email]> napisał(a): > > > >> Hi, devs, > >> > >> Recently, in the PR of FLINK-19179[1], we have a discussion about how > >> to implement singleton pattern in Flink. > >> > >> Currently, most of the utility classes implement singleton pattern > >> through the private constructor. Seldom utility classes leverage the > >> enum mechanism. From my perspective, leveraging enum mechanism is more > >> simple and it can also overcome reflection. > >> > >> Whether using enum classes or private constructors, it will be good to > >> align the approach to achieve singleton in the whole Flink project. > >> > >> I would propose to leverage the enum mechanism in the Flink to > >> implement singleton pattern and append it to the code-style > >> guidelines. We may also have a JIRA ticket to refactor the existing > >> code. > >> > >> What do you think? > >> > >> [1] https://github.com/apache/flink/pull/13416 > >> > >> Best, > >> Yangze Guo > >> > > > > -- Best, Jingsong Lee |
Thanks all for the valuable feedbacks!
@Gael @Dawid Thanks for the explanation! I think you are right that this discussion is about a non-instantiable class that contains only static methods. @All My major proposal is actually to stick to one of two approaches in Flink. It seems that most devs prefer private constructor. And to be honest, I also could not see any drawbacks to that approach. All in all, we may choose the private constructor approach instead. If you think we should ban one of these two approaches, please +1 and tell your preferences. If you think we should not enforce it, please -1. Thanks for all the feedbacks again. Looking forward to your comments! Best, Yangze Guo On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 5:50 PM Jingsong Li <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Hi, thanks for starting this discussion. > > I am +1 for using the private constructor for util class. We don't need to > change it. > > I think few libraries use the enum, such as guava, common-utils, or even > JDK, the private constructor is widely used. > > I don't quite understand why a util class is an enum. Enum seems to be > conceptually different from general classes. It's just a util class, and I > don't want to enumerate it. > > And I think what Timo said makes sense to me. > > Best, > Jingsong > > On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 5:38 PM Timo Walther <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > honstely, I find using enums is more of a hack. `enum` stands for > > enumeration and is meant for listing flags or options. Using it for > > singleton patterns is just abusing a concept due to certain > > implementation details and less code. > > > > I feel this topic is like using Lombok for generating hashCode/equals. > > It means less coding but introduces another dependency and abuses the > > annotation processor. I would rather use the Java language according to > > the author's intention. > > > > Regards, > > Timo > > > > On 25.09.20 11:22, Piotr Nowojski wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I don't mind one way or the other. > > > > > > I guess enum way is somehow safer, however did we really have any issues > > > with our current approach with `private` constructors? I mean, you are > > > mentioning that using reflections could overcome private constructors, > > but > > > is that a real concern in our code base? Has this caused some concrete > > > issues? If I would be reviewing a code doing things like this (or > > generally > > > speaking using reflections in the first place for anything), one should > > > better have a really good excuse :) > > > > > > So all in all, I would be +1 for allowing `Enum`, -0.1 for banning > > > `private` constructors approach, but I also wouldn't mind sticking with > > > `private` constructors for the sake of consistency if the majority of the > > > community has strong feelings against using enums. > > > > > > Piotrek > > > > > > pt., 25 wrz 2020 o 10:22 Yangze Guo <[hidden email]> napisał(a): > > > > > >> Hi, devs, > > >> > > >> Recently, in the PR of FLINK-19179[1], we have a discussion about how > > >> to implement singleton pattern in Flink. > > >> > > >> Currently, most of the utility classes implement singleton pattern > > >> through the private constructor. Seldom utility classes leverage the > > >> enum mechanism. From my perspective, leveraging enum mechanism is more > > >> simple and it can also overcome reflection. > > >> > > >> Whether using enum classes or private constructors, it will be good to > > >> align the approach to achieve singleton in the whole Flink project. > > >> > > >> I would propose to leverage the enum mechanism in the Flink to > > >> implement singleton pattern and append it to the code-style > > >> guidelines. We may also have a JIRA ticket to refactor the existing > > >> code. > > >> > > >> What do you think? > > >> > > >> [1] https://github.com/apache/flink/pull/13416 > > >> > > >> Best, > > >> Yangze Guo > > >> > > > > > > > > > -- > Best, Jingsong Lee |
Thanks for starting this discussion, Yangze.
My personal preference for either singleton or non-initiatable classes is to use enum wherever it is possible, because it's briefer is safer. On the other hand, I'm also against private constructors. To my understanding, for most if not all suggestions in the code style guidelines, there are good reasons supporting the suggestions (e.g., there might be bad consequences not following the suggestions). For this case, I think neither of the 2 approaches does any serious harm. It's more about personal preference. I don't see the necessity to force one over the other. Therefore, I would be -1 for banning one of them. Thank you~ Xintong Song On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 6:46 PM Yangze Guo <[hidden email]> wrote: > Thanks all for the valuable feedbacks! > > @Gael @Dawid > Thanks for the explanation! I think you are right that this discussion > is about a non-instantiable class that contains only static methods. > > @All > My major proposal is actually to stick to one of two approaches in > Flink. It seems that most devs prefer private constructor. And to be > honest, I also could not see any drawbacks to that approach. All in > all, we may choose the private constructor approach instead. > > If you think we should ban one of these two approaches, please +1 and > tell your preferences. > If you think we should not enforce it, please -1. > > Thanks for all the feedbacks again. Looking forward to your comments! > > Best, > Yangze Guo > > On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 5:50 PM Jingsong Li <[hidden email]> > wrote: > > > > Hi, thanks for starting this discussion. > > > > I am +1 for using the private constructor for util class. We don't need > to > > change it. > > > > I think few libraries use the enum, such as guava, common-utils, or even > > JDK, the private constructor is widely used. > > > > I don't quite understand why a util class is an enum. Enum seems to be > > conceptually different from general classes. It's just a util class, and > I > > don't want to enumerate it. > > > > And I think what Timo said makes sense to me. > > > > Best, > > Jingsong > > > > On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 5:38 PM Timo Walther <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > honstely, I find using enums is more of a hack. `enum` stands for > > > enumeration and is meant for listing flags or options. Using it for > > > singleton patterns is just abusing a concept due to certain > > > implementation details and less code. > > > > > > I feel this topic is like using Lombok for generating hashCode/equals. > > > It means less coding but introduces another dependency and abuses the > > > annotation processor. I would rather use the Java language according to > > > the author's intention. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Timo > > > > > > On 25.09.20 11:22, Piotr Nowojski wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I don't mind one way or the other. > > > > > > > > I guess enum way is somehow safer, however did we really have any > issues > > > > with our current approach with `private` constructors? I mean, you > are > > > > mentioning that using reflections could overcome private > constructors, > > > but > > > > is that a real concern in our code base? Has this caused some > concrete > > > > issues? If I would be reviewing a code doing things like this (or > > > generally > > > > speaking using reflections in the first place for anything), one > should > > > > better have a really good excuse :) > > > > > > > > So all in all, I would be +1 for allowing `Enum`, -0.1 for banning > > > > `private` constructors approach, but I also wouldn't mind sticking > with > > > > `private` constructors for the sake of consistency if the majority > of the > > > > community has strong feelings against using enums. > > > > > > > > Piotrek > > > > > > > > pt., 25 wrz 2020 o 10:22 Yangze Guo <[hidden email]> napisał(a): > > > > > > > >> Hi, devs, > > > >> > > > >> Recently, in the PR of FLINK-19179[1], we have a discussion about > how > > > >> to implement singleton pattern in Flink. > > > >> > > > >> Currently, most of the utility classes implement singleton pattern > > > >> through the private constructor. Seldom utility classes leverage the > > > >> enum mechanism. From my perspective, leveraging enum mechanism is > more > > > >> simple and it can also overcome reflection. > > > >> > > > >> Whether using enum classes or private constructors, it will be good > to > > > >> align the approach to achieve singleton in the whole Flink project. > > > >> > > > >> I would propose to leverage the enum mechanism in the Flink to > > > >> implement singleton pattern and append it to the code-style > > > >> guidelines. We may also have a JIRA ticket to refactor the existing > > > >> code. > > > >> > > > >> What do you think? > > > >> > > > >> [1] https://github.com/apache/flink/pull/13416 > > > >> > > > >> Best, > > > >> Yangze Guo > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Best, Jingsong Lee > |
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