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A wiki for Flink

Stephan Ewen
Hi everyone!

I think we could really use a wiki. It would provide a means to create
project/feature suggestions with a low entry hurdle.

Right now, I am seeing two immediate issues where we could use the wiki:

1) Maintain a list of projects extending Flink or building on top of Flink
(as per Kostas mail earlier)

2) As a place to draft blog posts / news messages (as per Henry's
suggestion earlier)


I was wondering which kind of Wiki to use. The GitHub mirror under "
https://github.com/apache/incubator-flink" has a wiki that would need to be
enabled by the infra team. Since most people these days have github
accounts, that might be the way with the lowest entry barrier.

As far as I know, Apache also has its own Wiki infrastructure (confluence
based?), which would require an extra account for editors.

Does anyone have experiences with that?

Greetings,
Stephan
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Re: A wiki for Flink

Alan Gates
I've used the Confluence wiki that Apache provides for Hive and Pig.  It works fine.  I can't compare it to the github one as I haven't used that one.  Whichever you guys prefer we can file a ticket with infra and get one created.

Alan.

June 27, 2014 at 5:46 AM
Hi everyone!

I think we could really use a wiki. It would provide a means to create
project/feature suggestions with a low entry hurdle.

Right now, I am seeing two immediate issues where we could use the wiki:

1) Maintain a list of projects extending Flink or building on top of Flink
(as per Kostas mail earlier)

2) As a place to draft blog posts / news messages (as per Henry's
suggestion earlier)


I was wondering which kind of Wiki to use. The GitHub mirror under "
https://github.com/apache/incubator-flink" has a wiki that would need to be
enabled by the infra team. Since most people these days have github
accounts, that might be the way with the lowest entry barrier.

As far as I know, Apache also has its own Wiki infrastructure (confluence
based?), which would require an extra account for editors.

Does anyone have experiences with that?

Greetings,
Stephan


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Re: A wiki for Flink

Robert Metzger
Would it be okay for Apache if we use the GitHub Wiki?


On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Alan Gates <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I've used the Confluence wiki that Apache provides for Hive and Pig.  It
> works fine.  I can't compare it to the github one as I haven't used that
> one.  Whichever you guys prefer we can file a ticket with infra and get one
> created.
>
> Alan.
>
>   Stephan Ewen <[hidden email]>
>  June 27, 2014 at 5:46 AM
> Hi everyone!
>
> I think we could really use a wiki. It would provide a means to create
> project/feature suggestions with a low entry hurdle.
>
> Right now, I am seeing two immediate issues where we could use the wiki:
>
> 1) Maintain a list of projects extending Flink or building on top of Flink
> (as per Kostas mail earlier)
>
> 2) As a place to draft blog posts / news messages (as per Henry's
> suggestion earlier)
>
>
> I was wondering which kind of Wiki to use. The GitHub mirror under "
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-flink" has a wiki that would need to
> be
> enabled by the infra team. Since most people these days have github
> accounts, that might be the way with the lowest entry barrier.
>
> As far as I know, Apache also has its own Wiki infrastructure (confluence
> based?), which would require an extra account for editors.
>
> Does anyone have experiences with that?
>
> Greetings,
> Stephan
>
>
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Re: A wiki for Flink

Ufuk Celebi

On 30 Jun 2014, at 11:59, Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Would it be okay for Apache if we use the GitHub Wiki?

+1 for GitHub Wiki.

> On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Alan Gates <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> I've used the Confluence wiki that Apache provides for Hive and Pig.  It
>> works fine.  I can't compare it to the github one as I haven't used that
>> one.  Whichever you guys prefer we can file a ticket with infra and get one
>> created.
>>
>> Alan.
>>
>>  Stephan Ewen <[hidden email]>
>> June 27, 2014 at 5:46 AM
>> Hi everyone!
>>
>> I think we could really use a wiki. It would provide a means to create
>> project/feature suggestions with a low entry hurdle.
>>
>> Right now, I am seeing two immediate issues where we could use the wiki:
>>
>> 1) Maintain a list of projects extending Flink or building on top of Flink
>> (as per Kostas mail earlier)
>>
>> 2) As a place to draft blog posts / news messages (as per Henry's
>> suggestion earlier)
>>
>>
>> I was wondering which kind of Wiki to use. The GitHub mirror under "
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-flink" has a wiki that would need to
>> be
>> enabled by the infra team. Since most people these days have github
>> accounts, that might be the way with the lowest entry barrier.
>>
>> As far as I know, Apache also has its own Wiki infrastructure (confluence
>> based?), which would require an extra account for editors.
>>
>> Does anyone have experiences with that?
>>
>> Greetings,
>> Stephan
>>
>>
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Re: A wiki for Flink

Henry Saputra
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Interesting question. I could not find any rule about having outside
wiki, but the general rule is that all dev dicussions have to happen
in ASF resources.
So, technically unless somehow Github could forward any wiki updates
to dev@ list (which also cause noise) we should use one of ASF wiki as
Alan mentioned before.

- Henry

On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 2:59 AM, Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Would it be okay for Apache if we use the GitHub Wiki?
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Alan Gates <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> I've used the Confluence wiki that Apache provides for Hive and Pig.  It
>> works fine.  I can't compare it to the github one as I haven't used that
>> one.  Whichever you guys prefer we can file a ticket with infra and get one
>> created.
>>
>> Alan.
>>
>>   Stephan Ewen <[hidden email]>
>>  June 27, 2014 at 5:46 AM
>> Hi everyone!
>>
>> I think we could really use a wiki. It would provide a means to create
>> project/feature suggestions with a low entry hurdle.
>>
>> Right now, I am seeing two immediate issues where we could use the wiki:
>>
>> 1) Maintain a list of projects extending Flink or building on top of Flink
>> (as per Kostas mail earlier)
>>
>> 2) As a place to draft blog posts / news messages (as per Henry's
>> suggestion earlier)
>>
>>
>> I was wondering which kind of Wiki to use. The GitHub mirror under "
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-flink" has a wiki that would need to
>> be
>> enabled by the infra team. Since most people these days have github
>> accounts, that might be the way with the lowest entry barrier.
>>
>> As far as I know, Apache also has its own Wiki infrastructure (confluence
>> based?), which would require an extra account for editors.
>>
>> Does anyone have experiences with that?
>>
>> Greetings,
>> Stephan
>>
>>
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Re: A wiki for Flink

Ufuk Celebi

On 01 Jul 2014, at 06:31, Henry Saputra <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Interesting question. I could not find any rule about having outside
> wiki, but the general rule is that all dev dicussions have to happen
> in ASF resources.
> So, technically unless somehow Github could forward any wiki updates
> to dev@ list (which also cause noise) we should use one of ASF wiki as
> Alan mentioned before.

OK. I've mistaken Alan's last email as it doesn't matter whether we pick GitHub or Confluence. I'm also fine with Confluence.
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Re: A wiki for Flink

Robert Metzger
If we go for a ASF hosted wiki, we can choose between a moin wiki (
http://moinmo.in/) and Confluence.

We could write a little script that sends mails to the list on edits (the
APIs of GitHub would allow for that)

I vote for using Confluence.
Getting a ASF-compliant GitHub Wiki is probably not worth the effort.

Other opinions?




On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Ufuk Celebi <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> On 01 Jul 2014, at 06:31, Henry Saputra <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Interesting question. I could not find any rule about having outside
> > wiki, but the general rule is that all dev dicussions have to happen
> > in ASF resources.
> > So, technically unless somehow Github could forward any wiki updates
> > to dev@ list (which also cause noise) we should use one of ASF wiki as
> > Alan mentioned before.
>
> OK. I've mistaken Alan's last email as it doesn't matter whether we pick
> GitHub or Confluence. I'm also fine with Confluence.
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Re: A wiki for Flink

Ufuk Celebi

On 14 Jul 2014, at 21:17, Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:

> If we go for a ASF hosted wiki, we can choose between a moin wiki (
> http://moinmo.in/) and Confluence.
>
> We could write a little script that sends mails to the list on edits (the
> APIs of GitHub would allow for that)
>
> I vote for using Confluence.

+1

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Re: A wiki for Flink

Stephan Ewen
+1
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Re: A wiki for Flink

Robert Metzger
Okay, I will request a Confluence Wiki for Flink at Infra.
Therefore, I need your _Confluence_ usernames. You can create an account
here: https://cwiki.apache.org/.


On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 9:06 AM, Stephan Ewen <[hidden email]> wrote:

> +1
>
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Re: A wiki for Flink

Ufuk Celebi

On 16 Jul 2014, at 09:16, Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Okay, I will request a Confluence Wiki for Flink at Infra.
> Therefore, I need your _Confluence_ usernames. You can create an account
> here: https://cwiki.apache.org/.

uce
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Re: A wiki for Flink

Henry Saputra
In reply to this post by Robert Metzger
hsaputra

On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 12:16 AM, Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Okay, I will request a Confluence Wiki for Flink at Infra.
> Therefore, I need your _Confluence_ usernames. You can create an account
> here: https://cwiki.apache.org/.
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 9:06 AM, Stephan Ewen <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> +1
>>
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Re: A wiki for Flink

Aljoscha Krettek
In reply to this post by Ufuk Celebi
aljoscha


On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Ufuk Celebi <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> On 16 Jul 2014, at 09:16, Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Okay, I will request a Confluence Wiki for Flink at Infra.
> > Therefore, I need your _Confluence_ usernames. You can create an account
> > here: https://cwiki.apache.org/.
>
> uce
>
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Re: A wiki for Flink

Aljoscha Krettek
Dammit, gmail seems to be hiding it when i send just my name, so just to be
sure, my confluence name: aljoscha


On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Aljoscha Krettek <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> aljoscha
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Ufuk Celebi <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> On 16 Jul 2014, at 09:16, Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> > Okay, I will request a Confluence Wiki for Flink at Infra.
>> > Therefore, I need your _Confluence_ usernames. You can create an account
>> > here: https://cwiki.apache.org/.
>>
>> uce
>>
>
>
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Re: A wiki for Flink

Henry Saputra
LOL =)

On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 12:26 AM, Aljoscha Krettek
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> Dammit, gmail seems to be hiding it when i send just my name, so just to be
> sure, my confluence name: aljoscha
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Aljoscha Krettek <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> aljoscha
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Ufuk Celebi <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On 16 Jul 2014, at 09:16, Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Okay, I will request a Confluence Wiki for Flink at Infra.
>>> > Therefore, I need your _Confluence_ usernames. You can create an account
>>> > here: https://cwiki.apache.org/.
>>>
>>> uce
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: A wiki for Flink

till.rohrmann
trohrmann


On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 9:30 AM, Henry Saputra <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> LOL =)
>
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 12:26 AM, Aljoscha Krettek
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > Dammit, gmail seems to be hiding it when i send just my name, so just to
> be
> > sure, my confluence name: aljoscha
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Aljoscha Krettek <
> > [hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> >> aljoscha
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Ufuk Celebi <[hidden email]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> On 16 Jul 2014, at 09:16, Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > Okay, I will request a Confluence Wiki for Flink at Infra.
> >>> > Therefore, I need your _Confluence_ usernames. You can create an
> account
> >>> > here: https://cwiki.apache.org/.
> >>>
> >>> uce
> >>>
> >>
> >>
>
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Re: A wiki for Flink

Robert Metzger
I filed a JIRA, now we have to wait:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-8039
(I'm going to add further usernames posted here into the JIRA)


On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Till Rohrmann <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> trohrmann
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 9:30 AM, Henry Saputra <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> > LOL =)
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 12:26 AM, Aljoscha Krettek
> > <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > > Dammit, gmail seems to be hiding it when i send just my name, so just
> to
> > be
> > > sure, my confluence name: aljoscha
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Aljoscha Krettek <
> > > [hidden email]> wrote:
> > >
> > >> aljoscha
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Ufuk Celebi <[hidden email]>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>> On 16 Jul 2014, at 09:16, Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> > Okay, I will request a Confluence Wiki for Flink at Infra.
> > >>> > Therefore, I need your _Confluence_ usernames. You can create an
> > account
> > >>> > here: https://cwiki.apache.org/.
> > >>>
> > >>> uce
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
>
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Re: A wiki for Flink

Fabian Hueske
fhueske

thanks, Henry!


2014-07-16 11:36 GMT+02:00 Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>:

> I filed a JIRA, now we have to wait:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-8039
> (I'm going to add further usernames posted here into the JIRA)
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Till Rohrmann <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> > trohrmann
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 9:30 AM, Henry Saputra <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > LOL =)
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 12:26 AM, Aljoscha Krettek
> > > <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > > > Dammit, gmail seems to be hiding it when i send just my name, so just
> > to
> > > be
> > > > sure, my confluence name: aljoscha
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Aljoscha Krettek <
> > > > [hidden email]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> aljoscha
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Ufuk Celebi <[hidden email]
> >
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On 16 Jul 2014, at 09:16, Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> > Okay, I will request a Confluence Wiki for Flink at Infra.
> > > >>> > Therefore, I need your _Confluence_ usernames. You can create an
> > > account
> > > >>> > here: https://cwiki.apache.org/.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> uce
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > >
> >
>
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Re: A wiki for Flink

Márton Balassi
Hi,

My confluence name: mbalassi
I'll be 20-25 minutes late most likely, Gyula is attending from the start.


On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Fabian Hueske <[hidden email]> wrote:

> fhueske
>
> thanks, Henry!
>
>
> 2014-07-16 11:36 GMT+02:00 Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>:
>
> > I filed a JIRA, now we have to wait:
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-8039
> > (I'm going to add further usernames posted here into the JIRA)
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Till Rohrmann <[hidden email]
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > trohrmann
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 9:30 AM, Henry Saputra <
> [hidden email]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > LOL =)
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 12:26 AM, Aljoscha Krettek
> > > > <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > > > > Dammit, gmail seems to be hiding it when i send just my name, so
> just
> > > to
> > > > be
> > > > > sure, my confluence name: aljoscha
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Aljoscha Krettek <
> > > > > [hidden email]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> aljoscha
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Ufuk Celebi <
> [hidden email]
> > >
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> On 16 Jul 2014, at 09:16, Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> > Okay, I will request a Confluence Wiki for Flink at Infra.
> > > > >>> > Therefore, I need your _Confluence_ usernames. You can create
> an
> > > > account
> > > > >>> > here: https://cwiki.apache.org/.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> uce
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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Re: A wiki for Flink

Gyula Fóra
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gyfora

Thanks :)


On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Fabian Hueske <[hidden email]> wrote:

> fhueske
>
> thanks, Henry!
>
>
> 2014-07-16 11:36 GMT+02:00 Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>:
>
> > I filed a JIRA, now we have to wait:
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-8039
> > (I'm going to add further usernames posted here into the JIRA)
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Till Rohrmann <[hidden email]
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > trohrmann
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 9:30 AM, Henry Saputra <
> [hidden email]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > LOL =)
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 12:26 AM, Aljoscha Krettek
> > > > <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > > > > Dammit, gmail seems to be hiding it when i send just my name, so
> just
> > > to
> > > > be
> > > > > sure, my confluence name: aljoscha
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Aljoscha Krettek <
> > > > > [hidden email]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> aljoscha
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Ufuk Celebi <
> [hidden email]
> > >
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> On 16 Jul 2014, at 09:16, Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> > Okay, I will request a Confluence Wiki for Flink at Infra.
> > > > >>> > Therefore, I need your _Confluence_ usernames. You can create
> an
> > > > account
> > > > >>> > here: https://cwiki.apache.org/.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> uce
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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